Walter Philip EDMONDS^[1]

1879 - Abt 1934

• Name	Walter Philip EDMONDS
  Birth	Between Apr and Jun 1879	Camberwell, Surrey, England
  Gender	Male
  _UID	A6795D0D1DE94A33B6A5984E012676675156
  Occupation	1901, Carman (probably)
  Residence	1901
  	58 Sussex Road Norwood (Probably)
  Residence	1901
  	Also Down At 39 Bournemouth Rd With Maria Matthews And Stepfather
  Death	Abt 1934	Camberwell, Surrey, England
  Person ID	I8919	Ryeland Family Tree
  Last Modified	19 Apr 2024

  
  

  Father	Frederick Crompton EDMONDS,   b. Between 1844 and 1847, Worcestershire, England d. 20 May 1886, Woking, , Surrey, England (Age 42 years)
  Mother	Maria WOOD,   b. 7 Jun 1849, Hadleigh, , Essex, England d. Aft 1901, Camberwell, Surrey, England (Age 52 years)
  Marriage	18 Nov 1869	Westminster, , , England
  	Register Office At Westminster Witnesses: Helen Southern Anne Robertson -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Helen SOUTHERN Widow (Head) U Female 53 Middlesex, England Toy Shop Keeper Mary Ann HILLS Lodger M Female 40 St Thomas Exeter Cook Domestic Elenor JULE Lodger U Female 22 Gravesend Dressmaker -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Source Information: Dwelling 31 High (St Maylebone) Census Place London, Middlesex, England Family History Library Film 1341035 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 0163 / 29 Page Number 3 Now a restaurant She was also living there in 1871 marked as a "Widow" and Dressmaker aged 41 but as "Hellen" or it may be just a big "e". Living with George Rillham, Lodger, aged 26 and a "Conductor". Helen Southern living in 1891 with her son in 23 Oxford St Newcastle upon Tyne aged 63 Frank W B Southern (36) born Marylebone. In 1871, Frank was already in Newcastle as a Sorting Office Clerk. By 1881 he had got to Elswick nearby. In 1861, we find Helen at 81 High Street Marylebone, as a Widow, aged 30, living with: 3 year old Arthur Clara Marshall, a servant, from Paddington and George Deane, a bus conductor from Croydon. So no clues.
  Family ID	F2804	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family	Margaret Alice VINES,   b. 1869, Lambeth, , Surrey, England d. 12 Feb 1943, Camberwell, Surrey, England (Age 74 years)
  Marriage	9 Sep 1906	St Peter's Church, Walworth, , Surrey, England
  	- Witnesses Are George Arthur Vines And Ada Minnie Vines (Who She? Ed)
  Children	1. Walter Edgar EDMONDS,   b. 9 Sep 1909, Camberwell, Surrey, England d. 8 May 1986, Camberwell, Surrey, England (Age 76 years)
  Family ID	F2806	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	27 Nov 2014

  
  

• Event Map

  Birth - Between Apr and Jun 1879 - Camberwell, Surrey, England Marriage - 9 Sep 1906 - St Peter's Church, Walworth, , Surrey, England Death - Abt 1934 - Camberwell, Surrey, England  = Link to Google Earth

  
  

• Notes

  Beatrice May Mann remembers going to see the funeral and being ticked off for waving at the coffin. All I know about Walter Philip Edmonds (WPE). He had already died in 1938 when my parents married as he is marked as deceased on their marriage cert. He was alive in 1932; my father finished his seven year bookbinding apprenticeship in 1930 and couldn't find a job because of the depression. He was unemployed for 18 months and eventually went to work at the same place as his father (WPE) which means WPE was still working in 1932. I have a photograph of WPE and Margaret Edmonds/Vines taken in their garden (date unknown) and they are with another lady unknown to me. This lady also appears in another photograph surrounded by 4 men who are obviously related to each other. She is holding the arm or two of them but it is unclear whether they are her sons or younger brothers. Someone has written the names of the men on the border of the photograph - Keith, Jack, Phil and Will - any ideas? On WPE and Margaret Vines marriage cert (Sept 1906) the two witnesses are George Arthur Vines and Ada Minnie Vines - she is a new name to me, do you know where she fits? Also on the marriage certificate Frederick Crompton Edmonds is shown as a soldier and still alive - at least he is not marked as deceased. Not sure if that helps or hinders you Further background information - Margaret Vines, at the time of her marriage to her first husband (Dec 1890) was living at 40 Holyoake Road and her new husband at 110 Brook Street - presumably both in the Kennington, London area. Father-in-law Thomas Gosheron was already deceased. My father was quite a forceful character and did not discuss his family ever within my hearing, which is why I thought there wasn't any! Eddie Edmonds (married to Joan, who you call Aunt Joan) was my godfather so I knew we were related. Evelyn (Eve) Jackson/Edmonds

  
  

• Sources

  [S563] Submitter: Laurence Mann, Wood Family Gedcom.