Frederick Crompton EDMONDS^[1]

1847 - 1886  (42 years)

• Name	Frederick Crompton EDMONDS
  Birth	Between 1844 and 1847	Worcestershire, England
  	Ombersley Amberley Or Abberley
  Gender	Male
  _UID	B0620A6D03054AB7B33FE44A260DB1C2587F
  Occupation	Between 29 Dec 1865 and 5 Jun 1871
  	Scots Fusilier Guards
  Occupation	18 Nov 1869
  	Corporal Scots Fusilier Guards
  Residence	18 Nov 1869
  	Wellington Barracks
  Census	1871
  	Stated As Born In Worcester Ombersley Aged 24 And Unmarried!!!
  Occupation	1871
  	Corporal, 2nd Battalion Scots Fusilier Guards
  Residence	1871
  	Wellington Barracks
  Occupation	Between 18 Nov 1872 and 20 Apr 1874
  	Police Constable
  Residence	31 Mar 1873	Knole Hill, Wilmington, Dartford, , Kent, England
  Census	1881	Camberwell, Surrey, England
  	81 Edmund St
  Occupation	1881
  	Railway Porter
  Occupation	11 Jul 1884
  	Railway Porter
  Residence	11 Jul 1884	Camberwell, Surrey, England
  	81 Edmund St
  Death	20 May 1886	Woking, , Surrey, England
  	Brookwood Asylum,
  Person ID	I8914	Ryeland Family Tree
  Last Modified	19 Apr 2024

  
  

  Family	Maria WOOD,   b. 7 Jun 1849, Hadleigh, , Essex, England d. Aft 1901, Camberwell, Surrey, England (Age 52 years)
  Marriage	18 Nov 1869	Westminster, , , England
  	Register Office At Westminster Witnesses: Helen Southern Anne Robertson -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Helen SOUTHERN Widow (Head) U Female 53 Middlesex, England Toy Shop Keeper Mary Ann HILLS Lodger M Female 40 St Thomas Exeter Cook Domestic Elenor JULE Lodger U Female 22 Gravesend Dressmaker -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Source Information: Dwelling 31 High (St Maylebone) Census Place London, Middlesex, England Family History Library Film 1341035 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 0163 / 29 Page Number 3 Now a restaurant She was also living there in 1871 marked as a "Widow" and Dressmaker aged 41 but as "Hellen" or it may be just a big "e". Living with George Rillham, Lodger, aged 26 and a "Conductor". Helen Southern living in 1891 with her son in 23 Oxford St Newcastle upon Tyne aged 63 Frank W B Southern (36) born Marylebone. In 1871, Frank was already in Newcastle as a Sorting Office Clerk. By 1881 he had got to Elswick nearby. In 1861, we find Helen at 81 High Street Marylebone, as a Widow, aged 30, living with: 3 year old Arthur Clara Marshall, a servant, from Paddington and George Deane, a bus conductor from Croydon. So no clues.
  Children	1. Frederick Arthur EDMONDS,   b. 31 Mar 1873, Camberwell, Surrey, England d. Between 1891 and 1901 (Age 17 years)   2. George EDMONDS,   b. Between 1874 and 1875   d. Aft 1930 (Age 57 years)   3. Jonathon H EDMONDS,   b. Between 1876 and 1877, Camberwell, Surrey, England d. Yes, date unknown   4. Walter Philip EDMONDS,   b. Between Apr and Jun 1879, Camberwell, Surrey, England d. Abt 1934, Camberwell, Surrey, England   5. Ernest R EDMONDS,   b. Mar 1881, Camberwell, Surrey, England d. Yes, date unknown   6. Edith EDMONDS,   b. Between 1882 and 1883   d. Yes, date unknown   7. Edgar Henry EDMONDS,   b. 11 Jul 1884, Camberwell, Surrey, England d. Aug 1964 (Age 80 years)
  Family ID	F2804	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	27 Nov 2014

  
  

• Event Map

  Birth - Between 1844 and 1847 - Worcestershire, England Marriage - 18 Nov 1869 - Westminster, , , England Residence - 31 Mar 1873 - Knole Hill, Wilmington, Dartford, , Kent, England Census - 81 Edmund St - 1881 - Camberwell, Surrey, England Residence - 81 Edmund St - 11 Jul 1884 - Camberwell, Surrey, England Death - 20 May 1886 - Woking, , Surrey, England  = Link to Google Earth

  
  

• Notes

  Stated ages: November 1869 - 25 (Nov 1843-Nov 1844) April 1871 - 24 (April 1846-April 1847) April 1881 - 37 (Apr 1843-Apr 1844) Death May 1886 - 40 (May 1845-May 1846) Possible deaths -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Fredk. EDMUNDS Head M Male 37 Amberley, Worcester, England Raily Porter Maria EDMUNDS Wife M Female 31 Hadleigh, Essex, England Jonathon EDMUNDS Son Male 4 Camberwell, Surrey, England Walter Phil. EDMUNDS Son Male 2 Camberwell, Surrey, England Ernest R. EDMUNDS Son Male 1 m Camberwell, Surrey, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Source Information: Dwelling 81 Edmund St Census Place Camberwell, Surrey, England Family History Library Film 1341161 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 0695 / 75 Page Number 44 Searched for Crompton Oct-Nov-Dec 1845 CAA-CZZ 258 View Jan-Feb-Mar 1846 CAA-CZZ 286 View Apr-May-Jun 1846 CAA-CZZ 292 View Jul-Aug-Sep 1846 CAA-CZZ 268 View Oct-Nov-Dec 1846 CAA-CZZ 275 View Jan-Feb-Mar 1847 CAA-CZZ 285 View Apr-May-Jun 1847 CAA-CZZ 270 View Jul-Aug-Sep 1847 CAA-CZZ 250 View Oct-Nov-Dec 1847 CAA-CZZ 250 View Dear Laurence, I have completed my search for the records of your ancestor, Frederick Edmonds, whom you believed to be a Corporal with the Scots Fusilier Guards at the time of his marriage in 1869. There is not actually a regiment known as the Scots Fusilier Guards, but there are the Scots Guards and the Royal Scottish Fusiliers, so I commenced my search by checking the discharge papers for both of these regiments as follows: WO 97/1378, Scots Guards, 1855-1872 WO 97/1861, Foot Guards, 1873-1882 WO 97/1461, Royal Scots Fusiliers, 1855-1872 WO 97/1948, Infantry, 1873-1882 The records for the period 1873-1882 are divided into Foot Guards and Infantry as opposed to specific regiments. There were no papers for Frederick in any of these sets of documents. I then searched the muster rolls of the Royal Scots Fusiliers (also known as the 21st of Foot) for the period 1869-1870. The musters of the 1st battalion were held in WO 12/3838, and those of the 2nd battalion were in WO 12/3863. Frederick did not appear in any of these musters. I then searched the musters of the Scots Guards for the same period, held in WO 12/1872, and Frederick was present throughout the set of musters, which covered April 1869 to March 1870. The battalion was based At Home. Frederick was Private No 1683 until 21st October 1869, when he was promoted to Corporal vice (in place of) Trump. Frederick did not appear on the Married Roll of the musters. This does not mean that he was not married, but it means that his wife was not accompanying him in the barracks. I then traced the musters backwards and found that Frederick enlisted on 29th December 1865. The voucher number next to his name was 7, which denotes that he was recruited in the Gloucester area. This information was held in WO 12/1868. I then jumped forwards to find when Frederick discharged. I searched the musters of 1875-1876, held in WO 12/1878, but Frederick was no longer listed at this time. I then searched backwards and found that he discharged by purchase, whilst still a Corporal, on 5th June 1871. He was stationed in London at the time and paid

  
  

• Sources

  [S563] Submitter: Laurence Mann, Wood Family Gedcom.