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- Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:51:36 -0700 From: Judy Roberts Reply-To: robertsj@istar.ca Subject: My Godden Family
Hello Again Richard
I am sending you two lines, both direct meaning no other siblings unless relevant.
Thomas Godden of Brabourne and Penelope (nee could be Sladden because there is a son named that). Thomas died 1663, I have a copy of a will to that effect. Their daughter Joane (She is the one I told you about before) married 05 Dec 1665, to Thomas Cullen at St. Mary Bredin, Canterbury. He was a weaver.
Thomas & Joane Cullen had a son Richard born 1669. He married Affrey Jenkin, 03 Dec 1699 at Folkestone. Their son James b 24 Jun 1711 married twice, first Margaret Hogben 1734 second Mary Ovel 1746, he was a cordwainer. Their son Richard b 17 Nov 1754 married Alive Jeffrey 10 Jan 1775. He was a mariner and the first member of the family to work for the Rothchilds. Alice lived to be 99.
Now their son Thomas b 29 Dec 1790 married Susanna Dixon 01 Aug 1811. He was also a mariner and also worked for the Rothchilds. They had a son Thomas b 15 Oct 1815 married Mary Wiles Godden (I will trace Mary's Goddens when I have finish this). This Thomas had quite a varied career but always worked for the Rothchilds, moved away from Folkestone to the Dulwich area where there is a family stone at Nunhead. From here on down everything is documented. Their son Frederick b 09 Sep 1860 married Selina Adelaide Warr, they had a daughter Emma Maud b 1889 married Archie Joseph George Marsh, these were my grandparents.
Mary Wiles Godden's ancestors (I think you will be interested in this as I think this our connection).
Stephen Godden b 08 Aug 1613 Maidstone married Elizabeth Hall 20 Mar 1648. He died 1709. I have his will also. He was a cooper. Now Stephen & Elizabeth had a son Stephen b 12 Sep 1653 who married Mary Gardiner 1674 in Folkestone. Steven had a son Thomas b 01 Jan 1672 who married Elizabeth and had a son also named Thomas b 06 Sep 1703. This Thomas married Mary Baker and had a son named Richard who appears to have married twice first to Elizabeth Sladden and then to Elizabeth Puttee. They had two sons, one, Richard b 14 Jun 1778 who married Martha Golden and, two, David b 22 Dec 1780 who married Margaret Wiles. He married for a second time but it is the first marriage that produced Mary Wiles Godden. So there you are hope it will be of some use to you.
Regards Judy ------ Submitter to IGI of Richard Godden information is ROBERT F. Harris 23 ARCHER ROAD FOLKESTONE, KENT, ENGLAND Microfilm: 1394051 Submission: AF83-010065 ---------------
In case you don't have this info on Richard (1744). "Richard GODDEN was a landlord of the 'Three Mackerel' on the Strade. It was a well known haunt of Excisemen, and when it was demolished, circa 1936, moving wall panels and hides for contraband goods were found. Richard was co-owner of 'Flying Fish' 136 tons, 10 carriage guns. His partner was William BOXER. There are accounts...(pages lost)... among clean linen in a laundry basket. Richard and Elizabeth GODDEN were the grandparents of Mary Wiles GODDEN, who married Thomas CULLEN the banker's agent, and went with him to live in France in 1837." "Sue" Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001
----- There is conflicting evidence on whether Richard Godden was married twice (Elizabeth Sladden and Elizabeth Puttee), or there were two Richard Goddens married separately. I personally believe the best evidence is for one Richard Godden to be married to two Elizabeths, but further confirmation one way or the other would be welcomed.
Here is the one Richard, two wives scenario that some sources have:
Husband Richard Godden Christening: 16 OCT 1744 Folkestone, Kent, England Marriage: 09 MAY 1771 Folkestone, Kent, England Father: Thomas Godden Mother: Mary Baker
Wife Elizabeth Sladden Birth: About 1750 Folkestone, Kent, England Marriage: 09 MAY 1771 Folkestone, Kent, England
Children 1. Mary Godden
Female Christening: August 30, 1771 Folkestone, Kent, England
2. Elizabeth Godden
Female Christening: 04 DEC 1772 Folkestone, Kent, England Death: 17 JAN 1773
3. Thomas Godden
Male
Birth: Christening: January 26, 1774 Folkestone, Kent, England
Following this line, it is believed Elizabeth Sladden died between 1774 and 1777, with Richard Godden remarrying as follows based on information from Penny Hiatt Name: Richard GODDEN Sex: M Marriage 1 Elizabeth PUTTEE b: 1754 in Folkestone, Kent, England Married: 11 AUG 1777 in Folkestone, Kent, England Children Richard GODDEN b: 1778 in Folkestone, Kent, England David GODDEN b: 1779 in Folkestone, Kent, England David GODDEN b: 1780 in Folkestone, Kent, England William GODDEN b: 1783 in Folkestone, Kent, England William GODDEN b: 1786 in Folkestone, Kent, England Elizabeth GODDEN b: 1787 in Folkestone, Kent, England Alexander GODDEN b: 1790 in Folkestone, Kent, England John GODDEN b: 1794 in Folkestone, Kent, England
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Still others say Elizabeth Sladden did not die and the following children should be attributed to her as follows (but overlooking the three children listed above born between 1771-1774):
Husband Richard Godden Christening: 16 OCT 1744 Folkestone, Kent, England Marriage: 09 MAY 1771 Folkestone, Kent, England Father: Thomas Godden Mother: Mary Baker
Wife Elizabeth Sladden Birth: About 1750 Folkestone, Kent, England Marriage: 09 MAY 1771 Folkestone, Kent, England
Children 1. Richard Godden
Male Christening: 14 JUN 1778 Folkestone, Kent, England
2. David Godden
Male Christening: 08 OCT 1779 Folkestone, Kent, England Death: 14 MAR 1780
3. David Godden
Male
Birth: Christening: 22 DEC 1780 Folkestone, Kent, England
4. William Godden
Male Christening: 31 AUG 1783 Folkestone, Kent, England Death: 21 JUN 1785
5. William Godden
Male
Christening: 22 JAN 1786 Folkestone, Kent, England Death: 04 MAR 1787
6. Elizabeth Godden
Female
Christening: About 1787 Folkestone, Kent, England Death: 31 DEC 1790
7. Alexander Godden Christening: 20 JUN 1790 Folkestone, Kent, England Death: 03 FEB 1791
8. John Godden
Male
Christening: 23 FEB 1794 Folkestone, Kent, England
IGI Source Information: Film Number: 457685
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1744 - Yes, date unknown
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