Other Events and Attributes:

• _PPEXCLUDE: noneF
• _UID: F4B5F980D7FF46F4B597E0ABAA5C7EE3704D
• Occupation: Inn Holder
• Reference Number: HO13-PM

Notes:

Name: Robert BAKER -902 Birth: 1642

According to notes provided by Paul Foulger: Robert Baker was an Innholder who "w. 27 June 1706"

Burried Bef 10 Oct. 1706 (Will Probated)


See also: http://home.att.net/~kvaars/genealogy/dat78.htm





Alt. Death:
Note

Buried:
Note

Robert married Mary CHAPMAN on 11 Jun 1667 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. Mary (daughter of Stephen (Steven) CHAPMAN and Margaret ELGAR) was born in 1644 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; died in 1714 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 0BDCB600108D43C09793C155FFC6CF5667E3
• Reference Number: HO13-RO

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 94F294D4FA724284A5E7CDA5C1AF573D229C
• Reference Number: HO13-S5

Notes:

(AFN:H013-S5)

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: B7113A35B37949A288F89C6B632E56AC68A4
• Reference Number: HO13-TB

Notes:

(AFN:H013-TB)





Died:
Note

Family/Spouse: John BASDEN. John was born between 1669 and 1672 in Kent, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 34CEF6DCA10E4476986D6D03A68E9F59DE17
• Reference Number: HO13-RO

Notes:

(AFN:H013-R0)

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: C24960A7860042DB956B3C4C2AA75E960219
• Reference Number: HO13-WN

Notes:

(AFN:H013-WN





Died:
Note

Mary married Thomas PENNY on 6 Aug 1698 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. Thomas (son of Thomas PENNY and Francis MAY) was born in Aug 1669 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 15 Aug 1669 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 737BE85AC3244538A0C649B4500A87966EA7
• Reference Number: HO13-XT

Notes:

(AFN:H013-XT)

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 8CD39B5210784C1D964552BFBF6D9F877BE8
• Reference Number: HO13-Z1

Notes:

(AFN:H013-Z1)





Died:
Note

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 9EF5F0A05F44444A980FCD10F4E7042CE31D
• Occupation: Twice Mayor of Folkestone
• Alt. Death: Aft 6 Aug 1756; (Will Dated), Folkestone, Kent, England

Notes:

According to Shelley Haigger: "Looking at some of the BAKERs on your website, I think that you may be interested in the following (from ancient monumental inscriptions etc.):

Thomas BAKER died Sep 1756 age 75. Twice mayor. Left 2 sons and 4 daughters - Thomas, John, Mary, Elizabeth, ........, ........... ."





Buried:
Note

Thomas married Dorothy GILBERT on 7 Jan 1708 in Postling, , Kent, England. Dorothy was born in 1677 in Chartham, , Kent, England; was christened on 3 Jan 1677 in Chartham, , Kent, England; died on 22 Mar 1761 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: E7FA05FAE6284CC5A3F9CB4D63225339C46E
• Reference Number: HO14-05

Notes:

(AFN:H014-05)





Died:
Note

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: A5A6488124B347A78BE8D9B551B183F3522C
• Reference Number: HO14-1B

Notes:

(AFN:H013-VH)

Also have possible birthdate of 1674.

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 8C5989FA4CD84BDA83FAE58B2FA00EF77249
• Reference Number: GZZK-WG-3

Notes:

Need to check if this is the Thomas Baker married to Dorothy Gilbert (which would indicate his older brother died in childhood).

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 9B1CC9D58BC243868ED09C182DC70E5CDB12
• Reference Number: HO19-N9

Notes:

Mentioned in Father's Will of June 28, 1706

(AFN:H014-2H)





Died:
Note

Richard married Mary SMEETH on 5 Mar 1717 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. Mary was born about 1690 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: C5AA3E1B55BA424391C79D1549E4A5B5EDD1
• Reference Number: HO14-3N
• Alt. Death: Aft 28 Jun 1706; (Father's Will)

Notes:

(AFN:H014-3N)





Died:
Note

Henry married Elizabeth CASTLE on 8 Feb 1711 in Canterbury, , Kent, England. Elizabeth was born in 1691 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 19 Jul 1691 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 3F866C4A33B546949EAFFE02EA5873CB0AA7
• Reference Number: HO14-4T

Notes:

(AFN:H014-4T)





Died:
Note

Sarah married James MASTER on 6 Feb 1710. James was born in 1685 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 2 Mar 1685 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: B4873291D769448AAB1FDA6B24BE5BC018FF

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: F525195B5EC94005BCD69B36BD563548ED42

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 77259E34B8FD4E2BBC7B757AECC90EA62B1B

Baker married Elizabeth MIDDLETON on 7 Apr 1733 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. Elizabeth was born in Jul 1708 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 28 Jul 1708 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 561287A540D34BC19231795DFF529E134EC8
• Name: Richard PANNY
• Name: Richard PANNY

Richard married Sarah RADFORD on 26 Oct 1733 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. Sarah was born on 15 Mar 1715 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 96DC9D5D42E944B09C3D9FCFC076ED5B506D

Notes:

(AFN:GZZK-ZS)





Died:
Note

Mary married Thomas GODDEN on 15 Sep 1729 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. Thomas was born on 6 Sep 1703 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 26 Sep 1703 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 08CEAFBBD68640F2ADF4194338423FCE525A
• Reference Number: GZZL-OX

Notes:

(AFN:GZZL-0X)





Died:
Note

Family/Spouse: Richard KING. Richard and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: F642B27D6B434B62AB7401B76A4D156BD0D9
• Reference Number: GZZL-14

Notes:

(AFN:GZZL-14)





Died:
Note

Ann married William DIXON on 29 Jul 1732 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. William was born about 1710; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: DF924B75EEE84F02B4ECDFBA5D877FDFD3A7
• Reference Number: GZZL-29-3

Notes:

Name: Thomas BAKER -216 Christened: 11 FEB 1713

According to notes of Vern Hall, Thomas Baker was Mayor of Folkestone.

Thomas BAKER was christened 11 Feb 1713 in Folkestone, Kent, England. He died 1775 in Folkestone, Kent, England. He was sealed to his parents on 15 Mar 1951 in the Idaho Falls temple. Thomas was baptized 15 Jan 1949. He was endowed 24 May 1950. Thomas married Ann Vallier on 13 Feb 1738 in Folkestone, Kent, England. They were sealed 25 Aug 1952 in the Idaho Falls temple.

Ann Vallier was christened 19 Feb 1716 in Folkestone, Kent, England. She died 1783 in Folkestone, Kent, England. She was sealed to her parents on 16 Apr 1960 in the St. George temple. Ann was baptized 11 Oct 1949. She was endowed 1 Nov 1949. Source: http://www.noffsinger.org/genealogy/[TopleyFamily.FTW]


Shelley Haigger provided the following additional information: "Looking at some of the BAKERs on your website, I think that you may be interested in the following (from ancient monumental inscriptions etc.):

Thomas BAKER died 2 Mar 1775 age 62. Left Ann his wife (?5) sons and dau - Thomas, William, .............., John, ................. ."

Thomas married Ann VALYER on 13 Feb 1737 in Canterbury, , Kent, England. Ann was born about 19 Feb 1716 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 19 Feb 1716 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; died in 1783 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Thomas married on 13 Feb 1738 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 05B3150DFDA745D39F871416FA090805F669
• Name: Susanna BAKER
• Reference Number: GZZL-3G

Notes:

(AFN:GZZL-3G)





Died:
Note

Susannah married Richard TOES on 13 Sep 1740 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. Richard was born about 1714 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: D8071EC2C4C44D96BDC97FC98274EDF6D1CD
• Reference Number: GZZL-4M

Notes:

Dear Richard:

I had cause to investigate some members of the Baker family and found what might be an error when I compared what I found on the IGI with an entry submitted to your site.

It concerns John Baker, born abt 1720, son of Thomas Baker and Dorothy Gilbert. In the past he has been associated with the marriage to Elizabeth Hill but the IGI indicates that this John married Eleanor Brown, 13 Oct 1745, Folkestone. They had the following children, all Folkestone: Sarah chr 13 Apr 1747 Ellen chr 10 Mar 1749 d. 31 Mar 1751 Edmund chr 19 Apr 1751 d. 18 Sep 1751 Edmund chr 17 Jul 1752 John chr 26 Jan 1755 Ellen or Helen chr 8 Jul 1757 Mary chr 5 Mar 1760 Ann chr 28 May 1762

Edmund (1752) married Margaret Smith, 11 Oct 1774 and had

John chr 13 Mar 1778 Margaret chr 7 Nov 1779 (all records again for Folkestone) John married Elizabeth but there are two possibilities here and I have a contact who is working on this.

I stress that the above records are what I have gleaned from the IGI and thus should be verified by a 'Baker expert'- but the John Baker who married Elizabeth Hill in 1757 is given as born abt 1732 so definitely not the John born 1720.

Best wishes

Jane E. Marshall

------

Neil Harvey (Email: nharvey.keytechuk@btinternet.com) writes:

Hi,

If I may add my two pennyworth to this debate, the Folkestone Gedcom has two Johns, but some confusion!

John Baker chr 2 Oct 1720, son of Thomas Baker (Jan 1681) & Dorothy Gilbert, is shown:-

Marriage 1 13 Oct 1745 Eleanor Brown

Marriage 2 13 Feb 1757 Elizabeth Hill

John Baker chr 3 March 1724/5, son of Edmund Baker (Dec 1691) & Sarah (Unknown) is shown:

Marriage 13/10/1745 Eleanor Brown.

Obviously (at least) one of the entries is incorrect but the additional data might help in resolving the issue.

I have just found and posted four children for the John Baker & Elizabeth Hill marriage. There are also a number of children in the gedcom of the John Baker/Eleanor Brown marriage (though you do not seem to have this marriage or the children, the entries check out with the IG records).

This now shows that:-

The John Baker/Elizabeth Brown marriage was producing children from 1747-1762.

John Baker & Elizabeth Hill were married 13 Feb 1757 and producing children from 1760 to 1766.

If we rule out bigamy, it would seem it is NOT possible that one John was the husband of both. Therefore the question seems to be, if these are the right two Johns, which was which?

In the gedcom only the Oct 1720 John is shown married to Elizabeth Hill (whereas both are shown married to Eleanor), which might suggest the Mar 1724/5 John as the husband of Eleanor. Inconveniently, the earlier John would then have the later marriage (he would have been 37 on marriage), so no clear clue there.

Do you have any additional data which might help in resolving the issue?

All the best,

Neil





Died:
Note

John married Eleanor BROWN on 13 Oct 1745 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. Eleanor and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 7618875546A844D8B0818B2230C8E3E916F5

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 0DECC66F133E437E88C981D4A945C6D06A6D
• Name: John PENNEY
• Name: John PENNEY

Notes:

John PENNY. Born 1735 in Folkestone, Kent. Christened 14 Mar 1735 in Folkestone, Kent. Research Batch No M036501.

We do know that the John Penny christened on 14 March 1735 had Baker Penny and Elizabeth Middleton as parents: Jn PENNY Sex: M Event(s): Christening: 14 Mar 1735
Folkestone, Kent, England Parents: Father: Baker PENNY Mother: Eliz IGI Batch number: Dates Source Call No. Type Printout Call No. P020721 1635-1840 0908172 IT 1, 3 Film 6906423

and

Baker PENNY Sex: M Marriage(s): Spouse: Eliz MIDDLETON Marriage: 7 Apr 1733 IGI Batch number: Dates Source Call No. Type Printout Call No. Type M020721 1635-1840 0908172 IT 2 Film 6906424 Film

In addition, I did go into the IGI and downloaded every Penny from Folkestone and integrated that information into the trees. I normally don't post all the IGI data as source information since it is so readily available.

The record also shows that "a" (I think this is "the") John Penny married Elizabeth Smith on 12 NOV 1758 in Folkestone and that they had two children recorded in the IGI, John Penny c: MAR 1761 in Folkestone and Baker Penny c: JUN 1764 in Folkestone.

We know quite a lot about these individuals, but there is room for much additional research and possible corrections in assumptions. There also is some confusion with the John Penny/Panny born in 1741 who is listed as the husband of Judith Wood. We find a John Penny married Judith WOOD, 23 Jul 1768 in St Mary's The Virgin Church, Dover, Kent. Died Jan 1805 in Folkestone, Kent. They had the following children:

i. Ann PENNY; Born 1769. Christened 13 Dec 1769 in Folkestone, Kent. ii. Richard PENNY iii. William Wood PENNY; Born 1775. Christened 24 May 1775 in Folkestone, Kent. Research Batch No P020721.

Shelley Haigger writes, "In an attempt to fathom out why you had not considered that the John PENNY who married Judith WOOD could be the son of Richard PENNY and Sarah RADFORD, I searched the IGI (as you stated this as your source) and couldn't find him. I eventually found him as John PANNY bp 1741 son of Richard and Sarah PANNY. I don't have any evidence to support my theory that my John PENNY (husband of Judith WOOD) COULD be the son of Richard and Sarah but I can say that he was not previously married to Elizabeth SMITH - that was a different John PENNY. Therefore, John PENNY (son of Baker PENNY and Elizabeth MIDDLETON) married Elizabeth SMITH but he did not marry Judith WOOD."

John married Elizabeth SMITH on 12 Nov 1758 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. Elizabeth was born about 1740; died before 1768. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: D371EA2CD2264CD5BB45FEC14541E4DF7BB8

Elizabeth married Isaac MILLER on 8 Aug 1758 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. Isaac was born about 1735; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 0389B237AA9A48349F28210C25ED934412CF

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 338A5E2CEDE44736A8D0E981063DB347B4A1

Sarah married John HALL on 18 Nov 1759 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. John was born in 1739 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 9 Feb 1739 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 1B9565112ACB46ECA108E5DF26A316D66F03
• Name: John PANNY
• Name: John PANNY

Notes:

We find a John Penny married Judith WOOD, 23 Jul 1768 in St Mary's The Virgin Church, Dover, Kent. They had the following children:

i. Ann PENNY; Born 1769. Christened 13 Dec 1769 in Folkestone, Kent. ii. Richard PENNY iii. William Wood PENNY; Born 1775. Christened 24 May 1775 in Folkestone, Kent. Research Batch No P020721.

John PENNY married Judith WOOD, had three known children, and was of HMS Burford when he died 1779 in South Africa. His wife Judith died 1805 Folkestone. According to his descendant Shelley Haigger, John Penny was an able seaman on HMS Burford and the Public Records Office at Kew indicates he died in 1779 in a hospital in Simonstown - must be South Africa. However there wasn't any official hospital in Simonstown at the time, but Simonstown was then a place under Dutch control where ships would stop. It was Judith PENNY (widow of John) who was buried in Folkestone. John died in South Africa. Source: Shelley Haigger, new email: "Trevor Haigger" t@haigger.freeserve.co.uk

Shelley Haigger writes, "In an attempt to fathom out why you had not considered that the John PENNY who married Judith WOOD could be the son of Richard PENNY and Sarah RADFORD, I searched the IGI (as you stated this as your source) and couldn't find him. I eventually found him as John PANNY bp 1741 son of Richard and Sarah PANNY. I don't have any evidence to support my theory that my John PENNY (husband of Judith WOOD) COULD be the son of Richard and Sarah but I can say that he was not previously married to Elizabeth SMITH - that was a different John PENNY. Therefore, John PENNY (son of Baker PENNY and Elizabeth MIDDLETON) married Elizabeth SMITH but he did not marry Judith WOOD."

John married Judith WOOD on 23 Jul 1768 in Saint Mary The Virgin, Dover, Kent, England. Judith was born in May 1745 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 10 May 1745 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; died in Jan 1805 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 4A7ABBEAAE6A4A638B45E96331EF4CE298A2

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: E1302513C0BF4714A8EC7F10A701320C2C99

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 57EB55C9CAF8495BA867B1DC40EABD97E08F

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 58DD205889764AE4A6D0E7DDA62CA82BB943

Notes:

Thomas GODDEN Sex: M Event(s): Birth: 15 Jul 1730
Folkestone, Kent, England Parents: Father: Thomas GODDEN Mother: Mary BAKER IGI Source Information: Film Number: 452069 and Film Number: 457813

Thomas married Susannah BAKER on 15 Aug 1754 in Canterbury, , Kent, England. Susannah was born about 1734; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 47C08FA8D4F647FEBCD704A1C0E6AADBB01F

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 2C589B43B539480280FDD29729741DBDF75B

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: BA8C934383354386A47B7C3FE9A611ACC308
• Name: Ezekias GODDEN
• Name: Ezekias GODDEN
• Name: Hezekias GODDEN

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: FF043D7969AB455F9BF3C499B171AA4870BA

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 1D7C5A9743734C66BF27ADDD5B5F03A8C7ED
• Alt. Birth: Jan 1742; Folkestone, Kent, England

Notes:

[Warman.ftw]

Info: Penny Hiatt

Name: Stephen GODDEN Sex: M

Marriage 1 Alice WILSON b: 1755 in Folkestone, Kent, England Married: 17 APR 1774 in Folkestone, Kent, England Children Stephen GODDEN b: 1775 in Folkestone, Kent, England John GODDEN b: 1777 in Folkestone, Kent, England Luke GODDEN b: 1778 in Folkestone, Kent, England Mary GODDEN b: 1779 in Folkestone, Kent, England Thomas GODDEN b: 1780 in Folkestone, Kent, England

Husband Stephen Godden
Birth: JUL 1740 Folkestone, Kent, England Christening: 15 JAN 1742 Folkestone, Kent, England Father: Thomas Godden Mother: Mary Baker

Marriage: 17 APR 1774 Folkestone, Kent, England

Wife Alice Wilson Christening: 02 FEB 1755 Folkestone, Kent, England Marriage: 17 APR 1774 Folkestone, Kent, England

Father: Thomas Wilson Mother: Mary

Children

1. Luke Godden
Male Christening: 26 APR 1778 Folkestone, Kent, England

2. Mary Godden
Female Christening: 17 SEP 1779 Folkestone, Kent, England

3. Thomas Godden
Male Christening: 10 DEC 1780 Folkestone, Kent, England

Stephen married Alice WILSON on 17 Apr 1774 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. Alice was born in 1755 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 2 Feb 1755 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 6D6ADEA9E51B4E1DB68CD9EEB909F9B5429B

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 0AE3F181166D4DB3A078C738ED61DE779CC0

Notes:

Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:51:36 -0700 From: Judy Roberts Reply-To: robertsj@istar.ca Subject: My Godden Family

Hello Again Richard

I am sending you two lines, both direct meaning no other siblings unless relevant.

Thomas Godden of Brabourne and Penelope (nee could be Sladden because there is a son named that). Thomas died 1663, I have a copy of a will to that effect. Their daughter Joane (She is the one I told you about before) married 05 Dec 1665, to Thomas Cullen at St. Mary Bredin, Canterbury. He was a weaver.

Thomas & Joane Cullen had a son Richard born 1669. He married Affrey Jenkin, 03 Dec 1699 at Folkestone. Their son James b 24 Jun 1711 married twice, first Margaret Hogben 1734 second Mary Ovel 1746, he was a cordwainer. Their son Richard b 17 Nov 1754 married Alive Jeffrey 10 Jan 1775. He was a mariner and the first member of the family to work for the Rothchilds. Alice lived to be 99.

Now their son Thomas b 29 Dec 1790 married Susanna Dixon 01 Aug 1811. He was also a mariner and also worked for the Rothchilds. They had a son Thomas b 15 Oct 1815 married Mary Wiles Godden (I will trace Mary's Goddens when I have finish this). This Thomas had quite a varied career but always worked for the Rothchilds, moved away from Folkestone to the Dulwich area where there is a family stone at Nunhead. From here on down everything is documented. Their son Frederick b 09 Sep 1860 married Selina Adelaide Warr, they had a daughter Emma Maud b 1889 married Archie Joseph George Marsh, these were my grandparents.

Mary Wiles Godden's ancestors (I think you will be interested in this as I think this our connection).

Stephen Godden b 08 Aug 1613 Maidstone married Elizabeth Hall 20 Mar 1648. He died 1709. I have his will also. He was a cooper. Now Stephen & Elizabeth had a son Stephen b 12 Sep 1653 who married Mary Gardiner 1674 in Folkestone. Steven had a son Thomas b 01 Jan 1672 who married Elizabeth and had a son also named Thomas b 06 Sep 1703. This Thomas married Mary Baker and had a son named Richard who appears to have married twice first to Elizabeth Sladden and then to Elizabeth Puttee. They had two sons, one, Richard b 14 Jun 1778 who married Martha Golden and, two, David b 22 Dec 1780 who married Margaret Wiles. He married for a second time but it is the first marriage that produced Mary Wiles Godden. So there you are hope it will be of some use to you.

Regards Judy ------ Submitter to IGI of Richard Godden information is ROBERT F. Harris 23 ARCHER ROAD FOLKESTONE, KENT, ENGLAND Microfilm: 1394051 Submission: AF83-010065 ---------------

In case you don't have this info on Richard (1744). "Richard GODDEN was a landlord of the 'Three Mackerel' on the Strade. It was a well known haunt of Excisemen, and when it was demolished, circa 1936, moving wall panels and hides for contraband goods were found. Richard was co-owner of 'Flying Fish' 136 tons, 10 carriage guns. His partner was William BOXER. There are accounts...(pages lost)... among clean linen in a laundry basket. Richard and Elizabeth GODDEN were the grandparents of Mary Wiles GODDEN, who married Thomas CULLEN the banker's agent, and went with him to live in France in 1837." "Sue" Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001

----- There is conflicting evidence on whether Richard Godden was married twice (Elizabeth Sladden and Elizabeth Puttee), or there were two Richard Goddens married separately. I personally believe the best evidence is for one Richard Godden to be married to two Elizabeths, but further confirmation one way or the other would be welcomed.

Here is the one Richard, two wives scenario that some sources have:

Husband Richard Godden Christening: 16 OCT 1744 Folkestone, Kent, England Marriage: 09 MAY 1771 Folkestone, Kent, England Father: Thomas Godden Mother: Mary Baker

Wife Elizabeth Sladden Birth: About 1750 Folkestone, Kent, England Marriage: 09 MAY 1771 Folkestone, Kent, England

Children 1. Mary Godden
Female Christening: August 30, 1771 Folkestone, Kent, England

2. Elizabeth Godden
Female Christening: 04 DEC 1772 Folkestone, Kent, England Death: 17 JAN 1773

3. Thomas Godden
Male
Birth: Christening: January 26, 1774 Folkestone, Kent, England

Following this line, it is believed Elizabeth Sladden died between 1774 and 1777, with Richard Godden remarrying as follows based on information from Penny Hiatt Name: Richard GODDEN Sex: M Marriage 1 Elizabeth PUTTEE b: 1754 in Folkestone, Kent, England Married: 11 AUG 1777 in Folkestone, Kent, England Children Richard GODDEN b: 1778 in Folkestone, Kent, England David GODDEN b: 1779 in Folkestone, Kent, England David GODDEN b: 1780 in Folkestone, Kent, England William GODDEN b: 1783 in Folkestone, Kent, England William GODDEN b: 1786 in Folkestone, Kent, England Elizabeth GODDEN b: 1787 in Folkestone, Kent, England Alexander GODDEN b: 1790 in Folkestone, Kent, England John GODDEN b: 1794 in Folkestone, Kent, England

-------

Still others say Elizabeth Sladden did not die and the following children should be attributed to her as follows (but overlooking the three children listed above born between 1771-1774):

Husband Richard Godden Christening: 16 OCT 1744 Folkestone, Kent, England Marriage: 09 MAY 1771 Folkestone, Kent, England Father: Thomas Godden Mother: Mary Baker

Wife Elizabeth Sladden Birth: About 1750 Folkestone, Kent, England Marriage: 09 MAY 1771 Folkestone, Kent, England

Children 1. Richard Godden
Male Christening: 14 JUN 1778 Folkestone, Kent, England

2. David Godden
Male Christening: 08 OCT 1779 Folkestone, Kent, England Death: 14 MAR 1780

3. David Godden
Male
Birth: Christening: 22 DEC 1780 Folkestone, Kent, England

4. William Godden
Male Christening: 31 AUG 1783 Folkestone, Kent, England Death: 21 JUN 1785

5. William Godden
Male
Christening: 22 JAN 1786 Folkestone, Kent, England Death: 04 MAR 1787

6. Elizabeth Godden
Female
Christening: About 1787 Folkestone, Kent, England Death: 31 DEC 1790

7. Alexander Godden Christening: 20 JUN 1790 Folkestone, Kent, England Death: 03 FEB 1791

8. John Godden
Male
Christening: 23 FEB 1794 Folkestone, Kent, England

IGI Source Information: Film Number: 457685

Richard married Elizabeth PUTTEE on 11 Aug 1777 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. Elizabeth (daughter of David PUTTEE and Mary BURWASH) was born in Aug 1754 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 23 Aug 1754 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; died in 1834 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Richard married Elizabeth SLADDEN on 9 May 1771 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. Elizabeth was born about 1755; died about 1777. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 5D2A0B3F82CC43DE8B6D61EAE815F3F2653D

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 978505A1583745CF88701E3AC3660183620D

Ann married Thomas WARMAN on 27 Jun 1770 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. Thomas was born in Jul 1744 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 20 Jul 1744 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 6FFB9304A29B46B4AB3AF7C51B957DCCD2B6
• Reference Number: GZZP-NS-3

Thomas married Mary BROWN on 11 Oct 1760 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. Mary was born about 1740; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: AEC2CC2BB20A4535B6BF74FC465D1CDF20BD
• Reference Number: 1473

Notes:

"I have a William BAKER, chr. 13 Feb. 1741 in Folkestone, who married Elizabeth BATEMAN in Folkestone on 21 Nov 1768, but I haven't traced any descendants." Source: Louis R. Mills who must be a relation.[lancelot_fri.FTW]

1741 chr. from film 1736721, #1, Kent, Folkestone B. T. 1603 - 1813.[TopleyFamily.FTW]

"I have a William BAKER, chr. 13 Feb. 1741 in Folkestone, who married Elizabeth BATEMAN in Folkestone on 21 Nov 1768, but I haven't traced any descendants." Source: Louis R. Mills who must be a relation.[lancelot_fri.FTW]

1741 chr. from film 1736721, #1, Kent, Folkestone B. T. 1603 - 1813.[TopleyFamily.FTW]

"I have a William BAKER, chr. 13 Feb. 1741 in Folkestone, who married Elizabeth BATEMAN in Folkestone on 21 Nov 1768, but I haven't traced any descendants." Source: Louis R. Mills who must be a relation.[lancelot_fri.FTW]

1741 chr. from film 1736721, #1, Kent, Folkestone B. T. 1603 - 1813.[TopleyFamily.FTW]

"I have a William BAKER, chr. 13 Feb. 1741 in Folkestone, who married Elizabeth BATEMAN in Folkestone on 21 Nov 1768, but I haven't traced any descendants." Source: Louis R. Mills who must be a relation.[lancelot_fri.FTW]

1741 chr. from film 1736721, #1, Kent, Folkestone B. T. 1603 - 1813.

William married Elizabeth BATEMAN on 21 Nov 1768 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. Elizabeth was born in Jan 1742 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 12 Feb 1742 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: FF675C44101542909D31C7B1EFEA363E9042
• Reference Number: H01R-ZR-3

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 98D621151DA6438CB3ACAE64E0B7FD28630C
• Reference Number: 9KL2-TW-3

Notes:

John MURTON was christened 29 Apr 1741 in Faversham, Kent, England. He was sealed to his parents on 21 Apr 1958 in the St. George temple. John was baptized 23 Oct 1948. He was endowed 27 May 1949. He married Margaret BAKER on 27 Mar 1764 in (License), Favorsham, Kent, England. They were sealed 15 Feb 1950. [Parents]

Margaret BAKER was christened 12 Jul 1745 in Folkestone, Kent, England. She was sealed to her parents on 25 Aug 1952 in the Idaho Falls temple. Margaret was baptized 23 Oct 1948. She was endowed 6 Dec 1948. [TopleyFamily.FTW]


She married John MURTON, 27 Mar 1764 in Favorsham Kent. They had the following children:

i. Elizabeth MURTON ii. Frances MURTON; Christen 26 Mar 1772 in Goodnestone Kent. Died 25 Dec 1858. She married William BALDWIN, 10 Nov 1792.

iii. Sarah MURTON; iv. Ann MURTON; Born 18 Apr 1765. Christen 18 Apr 1765 in Goodnestone Kent. Died Before 1768. v. Sarah MURTON; Born 22 Apr 1766 in Goodnestone Kent. vi. Ann MURTON; Born 20 Nov 1767. vii. Margaret MURTON; Born 20 Mar 1769. viii. Francis MURTON; Born 6 Mar 1772. ix. Nicholas MURTON; Born 15 Jul 1773. Christen 15 Jul 1773 in Goodnestone Kent. He married Sarah (MURTON).

x. Mary MURTON; Born 2 Mar 1775. Christen 2 Mar 1775 in Goodnestone Kent. xi. John MURTON; Born 2 Jan 1777. Christen 2 Jan 1777 in Goodnestone Kent. xii. Thomas MURTON; Born 8 Mar 1779. Christen 8 Mar 1779 in Faversham Kent. xiii. William MURTON; Born 23 Apr 1783. Christen 23 Apr 1783 in Faversham Kent.

He married Jane HUGHES.

xiv. Richard MURTON; Born 20 Oct 1784. Christen 20 Oct 1784 in Faversham Kent.

Margaret married John MURTON on 27 Mar 1764 in Faversham, , Kent, England. John was born in 1741 in Faversham, , Kent, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: FB03B239413748789900BA0CDD66EFCB7D9E
• Reference Number: H01S-0W-3

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: B5CC1711EBD7484D8DA7789D17A18E1FAE7D
• Reference Number: H00S-G7-3

Elizabeth married John GIBBS on 31 Jul 1765 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. John was born in 1743 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 27 Oct 1743 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 57409E5FF7DA4E2C87A2A0094CDC960B7ABF
• Reference Number: H00S-CP-3

Henry married Sarah HUNT on 24 May 1767. Sarah was born about 1750; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 990CA51A3DFA4447B293AAB99986C20AB90F
• Name: Susanna BAKER
• Reference Number: H01S-13-3

Notes:

Name: Susanna (also Susana) BAKER -840 Birth: 18 NOV 1750

[TopleyFamily.FTW]

Name: Susanna (also Susana) BAKER -840 Birth: 18 NOV 1750 [TopleyFamily.FTW]

Name: Susanna (also Susana) BAKER -840 Birth: 18 NOV 1750 [TopleyFamily.FTW]

Name: Susanna (also Susana) BAKER -840 Birth: 18 NOV 1750

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: AFABC9E3540A4B50895520FD36716FC5D5B0
• Reference Number: H00R-P9-3

Gilbert married Hannah BARTON on 30 Sep 1777. Hannah was born about 1756 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: D518BA7003B94407B2DC88911FEFB8BE49A2
• Reference Number: H00R-MX-3

John married Sarah WOOD on 15 Feb 1779. Sarah was born about 1760; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: EE707C1DDA8149F59509AB200FBF22170048
• Name: Vallier BAKER
• Name: Vallier BAKER
• Name: Vallyer BAKER
• Reference Number: H01S-28-3
• Alt. Birth: 1760, Sittingbourne, , Kent, England

Notes:

IGI File No: 2034862 AFN: H01S-28

"Elizabeth [Tylden] m. 1st, to Vallyer Baker, Esq. of Sittingbourne, and had a son, Vallyer. She m., 2ndly, John Withers, Esq., of London."

Sir Bernard Burke. A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain and Ireland. London, Middlesex, England: Hurst and Blackett, 1855. p. 1241

Valyer married Elizabeth TYLDEN on 6 Oct 1787 in Milstead, Kent, England. Elizabeth was born in 1757 in Milstead, Kent, England; was christened on 24 Mar 1757 in Milstead, Kent, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]