Ryeland Family Tree

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Mary Elizabeth ROBLIN

Female 1834 - 1916  (82 years)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Mary Elizabeth ROBLIN was born on 9 May 1834 in Ontario, Canada (daughter of Owen ROBLIN and Huldah Selden CONGER); died on 17 May 1916 in Cobourg, , Ontario, Canada.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • _UID: 44BAE404D6F246B8BF408AE3F140BC0E13E1

    Notes:

    Birth:
    Or 1836

    Mary married Henry Trent WEBB on 17 Jul 1860. Henry (son of Thomas WEBB and Aurelia) was born in 1833 in Ontario, Canada; died on 1 Nov 1883. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Annie WEBB was born in 1866 in Ontario, Canada; died on 10 Jan 1884.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Owen ROBLINOwen ROBLIN was born on 8 Aug 1806 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada (son of Philip ROBLIN, UE and Prudence PLATT); died on 8 Aug 1903 in Ameliasburg Township, Prince Edward, Ontario, Canada; was buried in Grove Cemetery, Ameliasburgh, Prince Edward Co., ON.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • _UID: 6516539CECF84751A189D22717023959B40A
    • Occupation: Merchant
    • Religion: C. Methodist
    • Alt. Birth: 17 Dec 1804, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada
    • Order in Council - UEL Land Grant: 18 Jan 1834, Ameliasburg Township, Prince Edward, Ontario, Canada

    Notes:

    Roblin Mills was dismantled and reconstructed as part of the Black Creek Pioneer Village near Toronto, where it still grinds out flour. - built by Owen.

    Another leading member of the family was Owen Roblin, a son of Philip. He was born in Sophiasburgh, and, after receiving his education under Jonathan Greely, removed to Ameliasburgh, where, in 1829, he took up four hundred acres in the third concession. This land is in part now held by W. J. McFaul and H. G. Staffordshire; and the latter lives on the old homestead. Owen Roblin conducted a general store and ashery, doing a large, and profitable business in sending the lye to Montreal. In 1838, or 1839, he traded lot 76 with John B. Way for lot 81, where the Ameliasburgh Roblin's Mills and homestead now stand. The village of Roblins Mills, or Ameliasburgh, as it is officially known, was first called Way's Mills, and was situated in the bend of the horseshoe below the hill on the present village stands.

    On taking possession of the Way property, Owen Roblin commenced to improve the water-power; his first act was to excavate the present canal from the lake. The extent of this work may be estimated from the fact that the blasting powder alone cost the equivalent of one thousand dollars. Besides farming five hundred acres, and attending to his many trading schemes and flouring mills, this busy man ran saw and carding mills. From his flour mills he shipped immense quantise of wheat and rye flour to Montreal; and during the Crimean War he exported day and night.

    Owen Roblin was a Justice of the Peace and Commissioner for taking affidavits; and for many years was a County Councillor and Reeve of his township. A post office was first opened in the village by a man called Meacham, who was Postmaster there for three years, when he was promoted to Belleville; and the Roblin's Mills' office was closed. It was reopened in 1845, with Owen Roblin as Postmaster, who held the post until his death, when he was said to be the oldest Postmaster in Canada. He was succeeded by his grandson, William H. C. Roblin, the present Postmaster. This grandson also closely followed Owen's son, Edward, as clerk of the Fourth Division Court, the interim holder of the post being William C. DeLong.

    One of the best known and most progressive men in the county, Owen Roblin, lived to the old age of ninety-seven years, only dying as recently as 1903. He married Huldah Selden Conger, a daughter of old Squire Stephen Conger; she died in 1896, aged eighty-five years.

    Federal Census of 1871 (Ontario Index)

    ROBLIN , OWEN

    Sex: Male Age: 64 Birthplace: ONTARIO Religion: Wesleyan Methodist Origin: ENGLISH Occupation: MERCHANT District: PRINCE EDWARD ( 059 ) Sub-district: Ameliasburgh ( C ) Division: 3 Page: 50 Microfilm reel: C-9989 Reference: RG31

    Owen married Huldah Selden CONGER on 16 Feb 1831 in Kingston, Frontenac County, Ontario, Canada. Huldah (daughter of Stephen CONGER and Mary BATES) was born in 1811 in Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; died on 26 Jul 1896 in Ameliasburg Township, Prince Edward, Ontario, Canada; was buried in Grove Cemetery, Ameliasburgh, Prince Edward Co., ON. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Huldah Selden CONGERHuldah Selden CONGER was born in 1811 in Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada (daughter of Stephen CONGER and Mary BATES); died on 26 Jul 1896 in Ameliasburg Township, Prince Edward, Ontario, Canada; was buried in Grove Cemetery, Ameliasburgh, Prince Edward Co., ON.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • _UID: AEA6CD25AF3E4FA8AA3B88BEE048A96E9478

    Children:
    1. 1. Mary Elizabeth ROBLIN was born on 9 May 1834 in Ontario, Canada; died on 17 May 1916 in Cobourg, , Ontario, Canada.
    2. Edward O ROBLIN was born in 1836 in Ameliasburgh, Ameliasburg Township, Prince Edward, Ontario, Canada; died on 29 Dec 1900; was buried in Grove Cemetery, Ameliasburgh, Prince Edward Co., ON.
    3. Malcolm ROBLIN was born in 1840; died in 1850; was buried in Grove Cemetery, Ameliasburgh, Prince Edward Co., ON.
    4. Phoebe Jane ROBLIN was born on 5 Mar 1843; died in 1850; was buried in Grove Cemetery, Ameliasburgh, Prince Edward Co., ON.
    5. Roger Bates ROBLIN was born on 18 Jan 1846 in Ontario, Canada; died on 15 Jul 1919; was buried in Grove Cemetery, Ameliasburgh, Prince Edward Co., ON.
    6. Donald ROBLIN was born on 13 Oct 1851 in Ameliasburg Township, Prince Edward, Ontario, Canada; died on 13 Nov 1933 in Toronto, , Ontario, Canada; was buried in Mount Pleasant Cemetery, Toronto, , Ontario, Canada.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Philip ROBLIN, UEPhilip ROBLIN, UE was born on 17 Dec 1772 in Smiths Clove, Orange, New York, USA (son of Philip ROBLIN, UE and Elizabeth Esther MILLER); died on 17 May 1848 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; was buried in Roblin Mills Cemetery, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • _UID: D9E30D423DC244A5A0D355D54B8ECD9DD38D
    • Occupation: Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada
    • Occupation: Phillip and his son Phillip had a complex of mills: saw, grist, flouring, fulling, carding, and a blacksmith shop
    • Emigration: 1783; USA To Canada
    • Residence: 1792, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada
    • Residence: 1842, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada

    Notes:

    According to records of Dr. H.C. Burleigh Adolphus ROBLIN had a bible of his Grandfather Philip.

    Introduced Methodism into Prince Edward County

    Philip Roblin moved from Adolphustown into Sophiasburg, where he located his land at Roblin's Mills, or Green Point, on the High Shore. In addition to clearing the forest, he managed to build and work a grist mill, which proved not only a success to the enterprising miller, but a boon to the settles for miles around, saving them their long and toilsum trips to Kingston, and later to Napanee. The founder of Roblins Mills, or Green Point, married Prudence Platt, by whom he had nine children; many of his descendants lived to be distinguished men and women of their county. A son, John P. Roblin, was for a number of years a prominent member of the old Reform party in the Upper Canada Legislature, sitting both before and after the Mackenzie Rebellion, sixteen years in all. He was defeated only once, and that was in 1837, when the cry of Liberal disloyalty was raised; but at the next poll he was elected by a sweeping majority. Notwithstanding that the Premier, Mr. Draper, was a Conservative, he appointed John P. Roblin Registrar of Prince Edward County, a position he held up to the time of his death.

    Philip Roblin owned the following lots in 1790 Con 4 Lot 24 Adolphustown - 50 Acres Con 4 Lot 25 Adolphustown - 50 Acres Con 1 (West of Carrying PL) Lot 2 Sophiasburg - 200 Acres Con 1 (West of Carrying PL) Lot 34 Sophiasburg - 150 Acres

    Philip was born in Smith's Clove but moved with his parents to Adolphustown, via Sorel during the fall/winter/spring of 1783 and 1784. There is a record of him marrying Prudence Platt in 1792 in Sophiasburg Township. He appears to have applied for, and been granted, 200 acres of land as the son of a UE Loyalist. Finalized by order-in-council on July 31 of 1797, this parcel was southwest of Green Point on Long Reach. It was rectangular in shape with waterfront and stretched back past the current highway 49 just north of the junction with highway 35. The lakefront view is spectacular.

    There was a stream on the property, fed by a lake since drained, which was just west of the junction of highways 35 and 49. This stream, which fell about 100 feet from the lake to Long Reach, was used to provide power for a grist mill, lumber mill, and shingle mill (according to the residents of the land in July 2001). This area became known as Roblin's Mills (often described relative to Green Point to distinguish it from the Roblin's Mills that that became Ameliasburgh town) and had a store, barn, large wharf for loading products of the mills into ships, and at least two houses (Philip and Prudence as well as their son Caleb.). In July 2001, the barn was in use as a garage/workshop (although moved perhaps 100 m from its original site) and the store was a part of a house. The stone foundations of the mills, as well as the raceways for the stream, were also clearly visible. The area can be accessed by driving down Roblin's Mills Road, at the junction of highways 49 and 35, and

    Occupation:
    began the operation of the family gristmill and sawmill at Green Point later Roblin's Mills.

    Emigration:
    With his parents

    Residence:
    the west side of Long Reach, an area called Green Point.
    Later referred to as

    Residence:

    Philip married Prudence PLATT on 13 Jan 1793 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada. Prudence (daughter of John PLATT) was born on 6 Jan 1771 in New York, USA; died on 24 Aug 1850 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; was buried in Roblin Mills Cemetery, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Prudence PLATTPrudence PLATT was born on 6 Jan 1771 in New York, USA (daughter of John PLATT); died on 24 Aug 1850 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; was buried in Roblin Mills Cemetery, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • _UID: 7787DAB243FA41BD8760514E04E76F4AEF91
    • Alt. Birth: 3 Jan 1771, New York, USA
    • Alt. Death: 21 Aug 1850

    Notes:

    No parents in IGI Nov 2004

    Other Platts in the vicinity who were of about the right age to be her siblings include:

    1.

    Children:
    1. Levi ROBLIN, UE was born on 30 Nov 1793 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; died on 26 Aug 1878 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; was buried in Roblin Family Cemetery, Near Fish Lake In Sophiasburg.
    2. Elizabeth ROBLIN was born in 1795; died in 1796.
    3. Kezia ROBLIN was born in 1797 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; died in 1836.
    4. John Palen ROBLIN was born on 16 Aug 1799 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; died on 12 Nov 1874 in Picton, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; was buried in Glenwood Cemetery, Picton, Hallowell Twp., Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada.
    5. Elizabeth Jane ROBLIN was born in 1801 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; died in 1885.
    6. Mary ROBLIN was born in Feb 1804 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; died on 22 Sep 1875; was buried in Roblin Mills Cemetery, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada.
    7. 2. Owen ROBLIN was born on 8 Aug 1806 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; died on 8 Aug 1903 in Ameliasburg Township, Prince Edward, Ontario, Canada; was buried in Grove Cemetery, Ameliasburgh, Prince Edward Co., ON.
    8. Caleb ROBLIN was born on 19 Jan 1810 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; died on 11 Feb 1835 in Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; was buried in Roblin Mills Cemetery, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada.
    9. Phoebe ROBLIN was born on 4 Apr 1812 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; died on 15 May 1904.
    10. Philip ROBLIN was born in 1814 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; died on 1 Apr 1899 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada.

  3. 6.  Stephen CONGERStephen CONGER was born on 1 Mar 1773 in Piscataqua Township, Middlesex, New Jersey, USA; died on 27 Apr 1827 in Hallowell Twp., Prince Edward Co., ON, Canada.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • _UID: 867B78AA337F471781BE0444C8AD9A9F68D5

    Stephen married Mary BATES. Mary was born on 7 Feb 1779 in Springfield, Windsor, Vermont, USA; died on 7 Apr 1827 in Hallowell Twp., Prince Edward Co., ON, Canada. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  Mary BATES was born on 7 Feb 1779 in Springfield, Windsor, Vermont, USA; died on 7 Apr 1827 in Hallowell Twp., Prince Edward Co., ON, Canada.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • _UID: 8A2DEB77AE1E4C5EB965815A157B202C6464

    Children:
    1. Nancy Langhorn CONGER was born in Jan 1803 in Hallowell Twp., Prince Edward Co., ON, Canada; died on 22 Oct 1880 in Picton, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; was buried in Glenwood Cemetery, Picton, Hallowell Twp., Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada.
    2. 3. Huldah Selden CONGER was born in 1811 in Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; died on 26 Jul 1896 in Ameliasburg Township, Prince Edward, Ontario, Canada; was buried in Grove Cemetery, Ameliasburgh, Prince Edward Co., ON.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Philip ROBLIN, UEPhilip ROBLIN, UE (son of Philip ROBLIN and Anne MEREDITH); died in 1788 in Adolphustown Township, Lennox & Addington County, Ontario, Canada.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • _UID: 4D4FB818E02A4393A2CF92A37E2028BD7589
    • Name: John ROBLIN
    • Name: Philip John ROBLIN
    • Residence: Abt 1755, Troy, Rensselaer, New York, United States
    • Residence: Bef 1769, Bergen County, New Jersey, USA
    • Residence: 1769-1772, Monroe, Orange, New York, United States
    • Church Attendance: 1774, Warwick, Orange, New York, USA; Members of the Old School Baptist Church
    • Event: 1775, Monroe, Orange, New York, United States; Signd a Pledge of Assoication
    • Event: 1776, Cornwall, Orange, New York, USA
    • Church Attendance: 8 Mar 1777, Warwick, Orange, New York, USA; Warwick Baptist Church
    • Inheritance: 1778, Smiths Clove, Orange, New York, USA
    • Residence: 1771-1779, Smiths Clove, Orange, New York, USA
    • Residence: 1772-1779, Monroe, Orange, New York, United States
    • Convicted: Oct 1779, Monroe, Orange, New York, United States
    • Event: 1782, Orange County, New York, USA
    • Immigration: 1783, Qu
    • Residence: 1779-1783, New York, New York, New York, USA
    • Residence: 1783, Sorel, , Qu
    • Emigration: Sep 1783, New York, New York, New York, USA
    • Residence: 19 Nov 1783, Sorel, , Qu
    • Muster Roll of Loyalists: 2 Feb 1784
    • Residence: 16 Jun 1784, Adolphustown Township, Lennox & Addington County, Ontario, Canada
    • Muster Roll of Loyalists: 5 Oct 1784, Adolphustown Township, Lennox & Addington County, Ontario, Canada
    • Event: 4 Feb 1788
    • Residence: 4 Feb 1788, Adolphustown Township, Lennox & Addington County, Ontario, Canada; Lot 24 Con 3

    Notes:

    b. say 1745, d. 1788. He was in Orange Co., New York, at the birth of his son Philip about 1771, and the name of Philip Roblin appears in a list somewhat vaguely described as comprising "the individuals who held a town office of some kind ... from 1765 to 1775 ... in Cornwall, Bloominggrove and Monroe," printed in Eager's Outline History of Orange County (1847). The three towns referred to lie in the south-east part of the county, and Cornwall was the home of his father-in-law. The names of Philip Roblin and his presumed brother Owen Roblin appear side-by-side in an undated but contemporary list of refugees "bound for Nova Scotia," his family consisting (besides himself) of one woman and four children. Next, the names of Philip and Owen Roblin appear close together in an undated list, presumed to be from 1784, of Loyalists in "Quebec" (which then included present-day Ontario), Philip being called a carpenter, and his family consisting of one man (himself), one woman, one male child over 12, 2 males 6-12, and 2 females under 6 years (another daughter having evidently been born since the family's arrival in Nova Scotia). His Loyalist petition, presented at Montr

    (Research):Stephen Roblin says he was born in New Jersey. Philip Roblin says he is a "native" of America to me this says they were born in the US. We know that Philip came to Orange County from Bergen County. I do not believe that any of them were born in either England or Wales. I have seen nothing that supports that. Our earliest Roblin was in America by 1722 and owned land in PA. He lost his land due to unpaid taxes and disappears by 1727. I believe this Owen Roblin is either the father or grandfather of our Roblin group. There is a baptism in New Jersey of a Catherina Roblin Jun 5, 1741 by Owen and Rebecca Roblin.....this could be the same Owen that was in PA or it could be a son. In addition there is a Peter Roblin who family say came from PA to South Carolina and received a land grant there in 1741. DNA testing about 2 yrs ago indicate that this Peter Roblins is related to the families of both Philip Roblin and Owen Roblin.....though his name has changed over the years to Robling. The land he held in SC was named Roblyn's Neck. I believe that the Owen Roblin of PA and Peter Roblin are related and could be brothers.

    Petition for land - Stephen Roblin June 16, 1797...wherein he said he was born in state of New Jersey. Granted 300 acres 24June 1797.

    In his claim he says "he was at Sorell in the Fall of '83. Is a native of America Resided in Orange Co. .....

    There is a family in Wales that interests me greatly as it has the names of our New Jersey/New York Roblins and the names of Peters family.....his son names his son Lewis, which is a unique name for the Roblin family.


    Philip ROBLIN
    " WILL: 1663, East walton, Pembroke, Wales
    Family 1 : ELIZABETH
    1. Alice ROBLIN
    2. Lewis ROBLIN
    3. Penelope ROBLIN
    4. John ROBLIN
    5. Henry ROBLIN
    6. Peter ROBLIN
    7. George ROBLIN
    8. Owen ROBLIN
    9. Elizabeth ROBLIN

    Ann who is suppose to have married Nicholas Wessels was suppose to have been a sister to John and Stephen who came from New Jersey. We have never had any proof that she actually existed. We do know that Nicholas was married to Ann Smith, that we have proof of. So though I have kept Ann Roblin as Nicholas's first wife, there is no proof.

    I believe there is another sister for Stephen, John and Ann. This is based on the treason charged against Stephen....he is identified in those charges as "Stephen of Harrington Twp, Bergen" May 1783 Maria Roblin of Harrington Twp married Cornelius J. Westervelt. Because they both lived in the same twp and the name Roblin is not common I believe they are siblings. There is also a Catherine Roblin who married Yellis/Giles Mandeville abt 1795 in Wantgo, Sussex Co but I have no idea of how she fits into this. And there is an Abraham Roblin b. 1764 who lived in New York and died Sept 29, 1820, who had a son Edward. Abraham died while in the military when a bridge collapsed in Westmoreland, NH.AS you probably know, Edward the brother of Owen and Philip seems to disappear, no one has traced him. I find it very interesting that Abraham names a son Edward. The story goes that Edward went to Nova Scotia, but I believe that is incorrect. Owen and Philip are on a list of settlers going to Nova Scotia but went to Ontario instead and I think that is where that story comes from. Edward is not on that list with them.

    Re Edward, you ask where he is found there are several mentions of him in Orange County records, He was a known member of the Claudius Smith gang and there is an amusing story of him being jailed and talking the jailors daughter into helping him escape. If you simply google Edward Roblin of Orange County New York you will come up with a whole list of articles about him. He has been considered the "bandit" of the Roblin family but Philip too was arrested for his activities, people do not seem to know that.

    Sept 1782 List of Refugess bound for Nova Scotia (Loyalists in the American Revolution, Loyalists in the Southern Campaign, Volume III, Refugees - pg 392)
    Philip Roblin 1-1-4
    Owin Roblin 1-1-4
    Richard Smith 1-1-1 (son of Claudius Smith)
    George Galloway 1-1-2 (witness for Philip Roblin's land petition)

    I am a Wessels descendant, my grandmothers mother was a Wessels. Nicholas Wessels was suppose to have married Ann Roblin. Nicholas's sister, Sarah married John Roblin. Until recently we believed that Sarah died in 1817 or 1821 (can't remember) this is incorrect. It comes from the belief that Sarah left her property in PE Co to Stephen Wessels, this also is incorrect. In 1817 (I think it was registered 1821) she sold the property to Stephen. Sarah went on to remarry and had another child, she did not die until 1840. After her death her husband and her son John Roblin tried to reclaim the property she had sold, which by that time was in the hands of Owen Wessels who helped him develop the property and build a church on it. They were not successful and John Jr died before the case was finished.

    It is also believed that Owen Roblin Jr and Elizabeth Roblin were the children of John Roblin and Sarah Wessels, This too is incorrect, I wrote a proof that Owen Roblin was the son of Owen Roblin Sr years ago and I think that is accepted at this point. The fact that Elizabeth is not a child of John and Sarah has not been as widely shared and I am not sure how many people know about this. I have a proof for that as well....the basic fact is that Sarah was not old enough to have been Elizabeth's mother.....there are other things as well that indicate that Elizabeth is the "missing" 4th child of Owen Roblin Sr who came to Ontario with 4 children, two over the age of 10 and 2 under the age of 10. If you have any interest in this I can share that with you.

    Well, this has not proved to be such a "quick" response but that is it in a nutshell. I do not support the birth of any of our Roblin's as being from England or Wales. I do believe that they came from Wales but that the parents of our Roblin were here before the birth of our oldest known Ontario settlers.

    Will take a look at your poster later, I am presently working on the Stickle family and am in the process of selling my house and arranging to move out of the US.

    You say...Based on British records that have recently come online, it does seem more and more like Owen, Ann, Philip, John & Stephen were all siblings and that their father was Philip (bef.1725-aft.1769) with Owen's mother being Grace Meredith, possibly dying in childbirth and the other four's mother Anne Meredith (probably Grace's sister, maybe a twin). Have you info that would put this interpretation into question?

    I would be VERY interested in what records you refer to,....I know another Roblin researcher has put together a theory that our Roblins were born in England but I think it is wrong and that he is manipulating what information he has to make it fit his theory and have told him as much and have not heard back from him again.

    I have about ten online trees on Ancestry....and do have some of my Roblin information there: 1) Owen Roblin Tree..http://person.ancestry.com/tree/63886267/person/44111206480/facts and 2) John Roblin and Sarah Wessels Tree http://person.ancestry.com/tree/71033516/person/42227975890/facts


    Regards,
    Linda Herman:

    Christened:
    There is a disputed christening for Philip of:
    25 Mar 1753, Bristol, , Gloucestershire, England
    Christ Church
    However as per the email from Linda Herman that does not seem to match with the facts at hand.

    Residence:
    From a 1889 biographical note about Sir Rodmond Roblin: "Family of Welsh Extraction; came to America in 1755 and settled in York State near the now city of Troy"

    In 1755 the Manor of Rensellaerswyck covered most of the land around what is now Troy. Perhaps the two young Roblin boys spent a period as indentured servants at the Manor or the newby Livingston Manor.

    Residence:
    "Philip Roblon" from "Bargain" [Bergen] County, in the province of East N.J. Paid John Belcher 170 pounds in the form of a mortgage on 75 acres. One half portion of Cheesecock Patent Lot 53.

    Event:
    "To adopt and endeavor to carry into execution whatever measures may be recommended by the Continental Congress and resolved by our Provincial Convention for purpose and preserving our Constitution and opposing the execution of the several Arbitrary Acts of British Parliament, until a reconciliation between Great Britain and America on Constitutional principals (which we most ardently desire) can be obtained and that we will in all things follow the advice of our General Committee respecting the purposes aforesaid, the preservation of peace and good order and the safety of individuals and property."

    Event:


    Church Attendance:
    March 8 1777 listed as church members in a vote to move church to Westmoreland PA. The move was cancelled due to the war and an Indian attack upon the church members who went to view the new location

    * Records of Pastor James Benedict


    Inheritance:


    Residence:
    They farmed 150 acres of leased land near what is now the city of Monroe, Orange County, New York. At the time of the Revolutionary War, the area was called Smith's Clove, a clove being a cleft between two mountain ranges.

    Residence:
    Sold his purchased 75 acres of Lot 53 back to John Belcher for 85 pounds. Leased 150 acres of lot 51 from 1772-1779

    Convicted:
    Act of Attainder was passed by the New York legislature which provided a legal basis for the seizure of the property of thow who opposed the American Revolution. The Orange County lands of both Philip and his brother Owen were seized and both brothers were impreisoned for months.

    Event:
    In the "History of Orange County" by E.M.Ruttenber , there is not so flattering account of

    Immigration:
    He and his brother Owen are listed as being on board the "HOPE" out of New York to Quebec July 4- Aug 18. The "Hope" was a brig of 40 guns accompanying 7 ships of Van Alstine's party


    Residence:
    Both

    Residence:
    Over the winter, Philip, Elizabeth, 3 sons and 2 daughters.

    Emigration:
    To Canada

    Residence:
    Philip Roblin's name first appears in Canada on an nominal roll of refugee Loyalists who drew clothing at Sorel Quebec on 19 Nov 1783, Philip signing a receipt for the same. At this time his family consisted of a wife, one son over ten years of age, two children under six and two over six.

    Muster Roll of Loyalists:
    Philip Roblin with a wife, three sons over ten and two daughters under ten.

    Residence:
    6 000 of the 10 000 disbanded troops and Loyalists who had gathered at Sorel were settled in the western townships along the Saint Lawrence river and in the Bay of Quinte area.

    In addition some 900 "Associated" Loyalists who were taken from New York to Quebec were settled at Adolphustown and Kingston. Philip Roblin was an "Associated" Loyalist with Peter Ruttan's company.

    Later that summer, the Loyalists drew lots to determine where their new farms were to be found.



    Event:
    In his statement of claim to the Loyalist Commissioners in Montreal,

    Residence:
    South Shore of Hay Bay

    Buried:
    He is likely buried in the "Old Adolphustown Burying Ground" on the 4th concession along the north shore of Hay Bay or in the UEL cemetery at Adolphustown.

    Philip married Elizabeth Esther MILLER about 1769 in Orange County, New York, USA. Elizabeth (daughter of Garret MILLER and Patience) was born on 10 Aug 1754 in Smiths Clove, Orange, New York, USA; died on 6 Jun 1815 in Cannifton, Hastings, ON, Canada; was buried in Belleville Cemetery, Belleville, , Ontario, Canada. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  Elizabeth Esther MILLERElizabeth Esther MILLER was born on 10 Aug 1754 in Smiths Clove, Orange, New York, USA (daughter of Garret MILLER and Patience); died on 6 Jun 1815 in Cannifton, Hastings, ON, Canada; was buried in Belleville Cemetery, Belleville, , Ontario, Canada.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • _UID: 2FE43F28B619441DBA48C76FD3C0640DE60C
    • Alt. Birth: 2 Apr 1754

    Notes:

    Elizabeth Miller, b. say 1750, d. 18- , and buried in the old Canniff family burying ground, at Cannifton, Ontario, having married secondly, John Canniff (d. 1843), the founder of Cannifton, who was a great-uncle of William Canniff, the well-known historian. A Methodist missionary, visiting the widowed Elizabeth's household in 1791, noted that "the house was larger than ordinary, having two log houses joined together." Some have claimed this woman as a sister of the Garret Miller who came to Sorel, Quebec, in 1783 and made a Loyalist petition that year. However, there is evidence that this man was son of an Adam (not Garret) Miller, which would necessarily preclude his being her brother. While Elizabeth and this Garret may well have been kindred of some sort, the closeness of any relationship which existed between them appears to have become exaggerated in family legend due to Garret's connection with the prestigious Embury family.

    Her name appears on joseph canniff's stone in belleville cem. along with age data Elizabeth is said to be buried on hill across from church in canniffton but it is very rundown (1997)

    She contributed 12 pounds Halifax towards construction of Hay Bay church in 1792. Apparently the largest sum and a big deal to the methodist church which now is part of the united church
    source- history of methodism in Canada and it is referred to in the pamphlet "the hay bay church"

    Elizabeth appears to have remained loyal to the crown and finally left for Canada with her husband and five children in 1783. After the death of Philip in 1788, she married a widower John Canniff in about 1793 and had three more children (Daniel, 1795; Phoebe, 1797; Joseph, 1799). Several accounts of her life are appended.

    Some reports suggest that she was buried in the Canniffton Cemetery but others suggest that she was buried in Belleville. My visit to the Canniffton cemetery in 2002 found an abandoned, overgrown and vandalized site from which any conclusion as to her presence is not possible. Stones noted suggest interments between 1850 and 1910. However Wannamaker visited in the 1960's and, while finding no stone, failed to mention the extensive vandalization. As Elizabeth was very well to do at her death, a large stone was likely. The particulars of her life are noted on the memorial in the Belleville cemetery (Section H; Row 3), from which the exact death date is noted and the birth date computed. There is little evidence that the stone in Belleville is other than a memorial by a loving son.

    The Canniffton cemetery is 'on the hill' and overlooks the river (consistent with early reports of Elizabeth's interment). It can be found by taking exit 543A on the 401 highway, going north about 100 m and turning left onto Highway 37. At Maitland Road (about 1 km) the cemetery is on the hill (east) directly across from St. Mark's United Church. It measures about 100 m north to south and has two sections (N and S)

    Birth:
    26 Aug 1753 from Jerry Turner

    Buried:
    Section H Row 3 Number 9

    Notes:

    Married:
    1774 in some sources
    Aug 10 1754 in others

    Children:
    1. Rev John Palen ROBLIN was born on 2 May 1771 in Smiths Clove, Orange, New York, USA; died on 28 Feb 1813 in Richmond Township, Lennox-Addington, Ontario, Canada; was buried in Hay Bay, Adolphustown Twp., Lennox & Addington Co., Ontario, Canada.
    2. 4. Philip ROBLIN, UE was born on 17 Dec 1772 in Smiths Clove, Orange, New York, USA; died on 17 May 1848 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; was buried in Roblin Mills Cemetery, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada.
    3. Owen Philip ROBLIN was born on 1 Dec 1774 in Smiths Clove, Orange, New York, USA; died on 16 Feb 1845 in Ameliasburgh, Ameliasburg Township, Prince Edward, Ontario, Canada; was buried in Ameliasburgh, Ameliasburg Township, Prince Edward, Ontario, Canada.
    4. Mary ROBLIN was born in 1778 in New York, USA; died on 17 Jun 1853 in Fredricksburgh Township, Lennox & Addington County, Ontario, Canada; was buried in Fredricksburgh Township, Lennox & Addington County, Ontario, Canada.
    5. Elizabeth ROBLIN was born on 15 Jun 1782 in Adolphustown Township, Lennox & Addington County, Ontario, Canada; died on 25 Feb 1867 in Cannifton, Hastings, ON, Canada.
    6. Nancy Ann ROBLIN was born on 16 Dec 1784 in Adolphustown Township, Lennox & Addington County, Ontario, Canada; died on 1 Aug 1872 in Hastings County, Ontario, Canada; was buried in Sidney Township, Hastings County, Ontario, Canada.
    7. Fanny ROBLIN was born on 22 Feb 1787 in Northport, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; died on 19 Mar 1841 in Northport, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada.
    8. David ROBLIN was born on 9 Apr 1788 in Adolphustown Township, Lennox & Addington County, Ontario, Canada; died on 23 Nov 1867 in Sidney Township, Hastings County, Ontario, Canada.

  3. 10.  John PLATT and died.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • _UID: 083B6880FEBC42F786F9F0139589D763F862

    Notes:

    UNCONFIRMED AS THE FATHER OF PRUDENCE & HANNAH

    Although Hannah had a daughter Prudence and a son John Platt HUYCK

    John Platt, of Hallowell Tp., Prince Edward Co., who in 1798 was rated as one of the wealthiest citizens, and assessed for 2s. 6d. in taxes,] and in 1808 appears as the owner of 260 acres of land, of which 40 were under cultivation. While on chronological grounds he may perhaps have been a Loyalist, his circumstances do not closely fit the men of this name who have been found in Loyalist sources. He is, however, possibly the John Platt mentioned in the following story:

    The current of events on the Bay Circuit was a little stirred by the advent once more, on a short visit, of its first evangelist, William Losee. Mr Playter's account of it is the following: "He came to dispose of his property in Kingston. He was now a feeble old man .... He preached in the chapel and also in some places on the Bay of Quinte.... He was accustomed to horse-back riding from his youth; and was once noted as a racer. When he first came to Adolphustown [now in Lennox and Addington County], in 1790, some of his old acquaintances would not go to hear him, not believing in his professions of religion. Among the rest was John Platt, whose sister, however, went to Losee's meetings. As she was going one day, the brother said, 'Do you ask Bill if he keeps the little black horse for racing yet.' After meeting, the young women trembling, gave the message to the preacher. He solemnly replied, 'Tell john, if he does not look out, he will ride the little black horse to hell!' that is, racing would be his destruction."

    In February of 1836 "John Platt and six others, of the Township of Ameliasburgh (Prince Edward)" petitioned the Legislative Assembly of Upper Canada that "Mr. Wilmot's survey of said township, may not be confirmed," but resolution of the matter is not apparent. By this late date, the John Platt referred to may well have been a younger man than our subject.

    Children:
    1. Hannah PLATT was born about 1766; died after 1826.
    2. 5. Prudence PLATT was born on 6 Jan 1771 in New York, USA; died on 24 Aug 1850 in Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada; was buried in Roblin Mills Cemetery, Sophiasburgh Township, Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada.


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