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• Name: Thomas GOODEN
• Name: Thomas GOODEN
• Reference Number: HO2B-WQ
• Alt. Birth: 26 Sep 1703; Folkestone, Kent, England

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Thomas GODDEN Sex: M Event(s): Birth: 26 Sep 1703
Folkestone, Kent, England Parents: Father: Thomas GODDEN Mother: Elizabeth IGI Source Information: Film Number: 452070


Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:51:36 -0700 From: Judy Roberts Reply-To: robertsj@istar.ca Subject: My Godden Family

Hello Again Richard

I am sending you two lines, both direct meaning no other siblings unless relevant.

Thomas Godden of Brabourne and Penelope (nee could be Sladden because there is a son named that). Thomas died 1663, I have a copy of a will to that effect Their daughter Joane (She is the one I told you about before) married 05 Dec 1665, to Thomas Cullen at St. Mary Bredin, Canterbury. He was a weaver.

Thomas & Joane Cullen had a son Richard b 03 Dec 1669, he married Affrey Jenkin, 03 Dec 1699 at Folkestone. Their son James b 24 Jun 1711 married twice, first Margaret Hogben 1734 second Mary Ovel 1746, he was a cordwainer. Their son Richard b 17 Nov 1754 married Alive Jeffrey 10 Jan 1775, he was a mariner and the first member of the family to work for the Rothchilds, Alice lived to be 99.

Now their son Thomas b 29 Dec 1790 married Susanna Dixon 01 Aug 1811, he was also a mariner and also worked for the Rothchilds. They had a son Thomas b 15 Oct 1815 married Mary Wiles Godden (I will trace Mary's Goddens when I have finish this). This Thomas had quite a varied career but always worked for the Rothchilds, moved away from Folkestone to the Dulwich area where there is a family stone at Nunhead. From here on down everything is documented. Their son Frederick b 09 Sep 1860 married Selina Adelaide Warr, they had a daughter Emma Maud b 1889 married Archie Joseph George Marsh, these were my grandparents.

Mary Wiles Godden's ancestors ( I think you will be interested in this as I think this our connection.

Stephen Godden b 08 Aug 1613 Maidstone married Elizabeth Hall 20 Mar 1648 He died 1709 I have his will also, he was a cooper. Now Stephen & Elizabeth had a son Stephen b 12 Sep 1653 who married Mary Gardiner 1674 in Folkestone. Steven had a son Thomas b 01 Jan 1672 who married Elizabeth and had a son also named Thomas b 06 Sep 1703. This Thomas married Mary Baker and had a son named Richard who appears to have married twice first to Elizabeth Sladden and then to Elizabeth Puttee. They had two sons, one Richard b 14 Jun 1778 who married Martha Golden an, two, David b 22 Dec 1780 who married Margaret Wiles. He married for a second time but it is the first marriage that produced Mary Wiles Godden. So there you are hope it will be of some use to you.

Regards Judy

The double year on the date refers to the old and new calendar; using 1701/1702 as an example, the date would be 1701 old calendar (Julian) the calendar used at the time or 1702 new calendar (Gregorian) the one we use now. Britain (and its North American colonies) used the Julian Calendar until September 1752, under which New Year's Day was officially March 25th and not January 1st.

Meanwhile, many of the countries on the Continent of Europe had been using a year that began on January 1st as well as adopting the Gregorian calendar from 1582 onwards.

Thus a day that fell between January 1st and March 24th in Britain could be in the year 1701 while in Europe it would have been in 1702. To avoid confusion year dates were written in the style 1701/02. This means that the date is somewhere between January 1st and March 24th in the official year 1701 but in the actual year 1702 assuming that years begin on January 1st.

You have to be careful about dates in the months Jan-24 March in the old calender as these came at the end of the year therefore a person born Jan 5 would be younger than a person born June 5 but if you use the new style calendar then the months fall as they do now.

The Gregorian calendar was finally adopted in 1752 the year they dropped the 11 days Sept. 3-13 to correct the calendar in England other countries change at different times.

The double date refers to the calendar change when England changed from the Julian calender. In addition, the beginning of the new year was changed from Mar 25 to Jan 1. So if someone was born between, say, Feb 11, as a certain George Washington, the year could be written with two dates, depending on whether you went by the old system or new system.

The rest of the world (meaning Catholic Europe, actually) had changed calendars a couple of hundred years back, in 1582, but since England didn't like to rush into things, (and was in a dispute with the pope at the time), it didn't go along with the change, and kept the old system. But many educated people thought the change should have been made back in 1582 when the rest of Europe changed, so they would write the date showing both dates, meaning that although Feb 11 was to some, 1701, they thought it should really be 1702. Eventually (1752) the British government decided that this new-fangled idea was going to stick around, so they changed the calendar too. To make the dates of things like Easter (which depends on the spring moon, etc.) fall where they should, they lopped 11 days off between Sept 2 and 14th. There were riots in the streets from people who thought they were being cheated out of 11 days of life.

Thomas married Mary BAKER on 15 Sep 1729 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. Mary (daughter of Thomas BAKER and Dorothy GILBERT) was born in 1708 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 19 Dec 1708 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; died after 6 Aug 1756. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Thomas GODDEN was born in Jul 1730 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 15 Jul 1730 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; and died.
2. Elizabeth GODDEN was born in Nov 1731 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 14 Nov 1731 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; and died.
3. William GODDEN was born in Jan 1734 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 27 Jan 1734 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; died before Jan 1738.
4. Hezekiah GODDEN was born in Feb 1736 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 22 Feb 1736 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; and died.
5. William GODDEN was born in Jan 1738 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 27 Jan 1738 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; and died.
6. Stephen GODDEN was born in 1740 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 15 Jan 1742 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; and died.
7. Alexander GODDEN was born in Jan 1742 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 15 Jan 1742 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; and died.
8. Richard GODDEN was born in Oct 1744 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 16 Oct 1744 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; and died.
9. Mary GODDEN was born in May 1747 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 21 May 1747 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; and died.
10. Ann GODDEN was born in Feb 1750 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 2 Feb 1750 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; and died.