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• _UID: 7BFCB81DBF85418A970D8CAD617466D34647
• Reference Number: IRN-946
• Baptism: 13 Aug 1804, England

Notes:

Occupation 1861 Labourer general aged 57, living with wife Mary and family in Folkstone, 1851 Labourer aged 47, living with wife Mary and family in Folkstone



Occupation:
Labourer General

William married Mary PUNNETT on 8 Mar 1827 in St Mary The Virgin, Dover, , Kent, England. Mary was born in 1810 in City Of London, , London, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Mary Ann SPICER was born in Aug 1827 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 8 Aug 1827 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; and died.
2. Susannah SPICER was born in Feb 1829 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 11 Feb 1829 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; died in 1860 in Elham, , Kent, England.
3. William SPICER was born in Apr 1831 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 5 Apr 1831 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; died in 1914 in Wandsworth, , Surrey, England.
4. James SPICER was born in Feb 1833 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 3 Feb 1833 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; and died.
5. Sarah SPICER was born in Dec 1834 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 10 Dec 1834 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; and died.
6. Elizabeth SPICER was born in Apr 1837 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 23 Apr 1837 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; and died.
7. Jane SPICER was born in Jul 1839 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 7 Jul 1839 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; and died.
8. Ann SPICER was born on 1 Sep 1843 in City Of London, , London, England; and died.
9. Harriet SPICER was born about 1845 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; and died.
10. Eliza SPICER was born on 1 Dec 1847 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; died on 27 Sep 1882.

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 0C92EB64EB2C4902B2EB625C1C254CE92085
• Reference Number: IRN-256

Notes:

Name: Jacob SPICER Given Name: Jacob Surname: Spicer Sex: M Birth: 1759 Death: 18 AUG 1817 in Folkestone,Kent 1 Reference Number: IRN-256 1

Marriage 1 Mary SPEARPOINT b: 13 FEB 1760 in Folkestone,Kent Married: 10 MAY 1780 in Folkestone,Kent 1 2 3 Note: Marriage Licence: Jacob Spicer of Folkestone, bachelor, and Mary Spearpoint of the same, minor (mother Susanna Spearpoint). At Folkestone. 9 May 1780. Children Jacob SPICER b: 12 SEP 1782 in Folkestone,Kent Susannah SPICER b: 31 AUG 1784 in Folkestone,Kent Richard SPICER b: 9 FEB 1790 in Folkestone,Kent James SPICER b: 30 JUL 1792 in Folkestone,Kent Ann SPICER b: 10 AUG 1796 in Folkestone,Kent Mary SPICER b: 26 MAR 1798 in Folkestone,Kent Sarah SPICER b: 1 FEB 1800 in Folkestone,Kent William SPICER b: 21 JAN 1804 in Folkestone,Kent

Sources: 1. Title: Folkestone SS Mary and Eanswyth Parish Register Call Number: U3/88 Note: NS18033 Source Media Type: Microfilm

2. S MARRIAGES IN FOLKESTONE SPICER Jacob bachelor SPEARPOINT Mary 10 May 1780 SOURCE: Parish Records Film 1850120 WITNESSES: Baker SPEARPOINT, Christopher STREDWICK http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~folkestonefamilies/s-marriages.ht m

3. IGI Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M020721 1635 - 1840 0908172 IT 2 Film 6906424 Film

See also: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=daveandjenny&id=I3466









Occupation:
Mariner

Jacob married Mary SPEARPOINT on 10 May 1780 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. Mary (daughter of Thomas SPEARPOINT and Susannah BOXER) was born on 13 Feb 1760 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 18 Feb 1760 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; died on 9 Feb 1827 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• _UID: 8E76E8D059D44FCD9DAF1B24410757ACDB17
• Reference Number: IRN-188
• Baptism: 18 Feb 1760, Folkestone, , Kent, England

Notes:

Occupation:
Wife

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 3F0811C7DB7845CE84B5452625958F39ABE6

Kenneth married Susanna. Susanna was born in 1735 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: C7C4781A7C314D228F4327FE622F4D8B9954

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• _UID: 57084396AA434A019D8EF5D56A379CC365EF
• Reference Number: IRN-175
• Will: 16 Sep 1766; PRC 17/100 FF81
• Probate: 15 Jul 1779; Canterbury, Kent, England

Notes:

The will of Thomas Spearpoint is as follows :

In the name of God Amen. I Thomas Spearpoint of the Town of Folkestone in the County of Kent Mariner being in bodily health and of sound and disposing mind and memory and considering the Perils and Dangers fo ye Seas and other uncertainties of this Transitory Life (Do for the advoiding (?) controversies after my decease) make publish and declare my last will and Testament in manner following (that is to say) First I recommend my Soul to God that gave it and my body I commit to the Earth or Sea as it shall please God to order And as for and concerning all my worldly Estate I Give Bequeath and Dispose thereof as followeth (that is to say) I give and bequeath unto my lawful wife Susanna Spearpoint all and every of my Wages Sum and Sums of Money Lands Tenements Goods Chattels and Estate whatsoever as shall be in any way owing or belonging unto me at the time of my decease I do give devise and Bequeath the same unto her the said Susanna Spearpoint to do with and dispose of as she likes, and after her Decease every child to share equally alike of what shall be then left and remaining of my Estate And I do hereby nominate and appoint the aforesaid Susanna Spearpoint my lawful wife to be my whole and sole Executor of this my Last Will and Testement Hereby revoking all former Wills and Testaments and Deeds of Gifts by me at any time heretofore made And I do ordain and ratify these presents to stand and be for and as my only last Will and Testament. In witness whereof to this my last will I ____ set my hand and Seal this Sixteenth day of Sept in the year of our Lord One thousand seven hundred and sixty six and in the Sixth Year of the Reign of his Majesty King George the Third over Great Britain. Thos Spearpoint Signed sealed and published and declared in the presence of William Kitchener, John Arnett, William Morris.

Proved 15/7/1779 before oath of Susanna Spearpoint the sole Executrix.

Source: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/a/z/z/Allan-Azzaro/WEBSITE-0001 /UHP-0180.html

Thomas married Susannah BOXER on 30 Nov 1744 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. Susannah died on 21 Apr 1802 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was buried on 21 Apr 1802 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: E21D5ECE7A8944789C445D7F567665421913
• Name: Susan BOXER
• Name: Susanna BOXER

Notes:

I had listed Susannah as the daughter of Richard BOXER and Margaret WATSON but that has since been proven to be incorrect (see research notes for further details).

(Research):John Copley May 20 2012

Comments: Susannah Boxer & James Morford are amongst my wife's ancestors. For a long time I had stalled at her parentage, and I was aware of the debate you record about whether the daughter of Richard Boxer & Margaret Watson married either Thomas Spearpoint or James Morford. I now have what I think is the definitive answer. The will of Margaret Boxer, widow of Richard, dated 25 Apr 1773, names "My daughter Susan the wife of James Morfit of Folkstone, Baker". The will also names inter alia her son Watson Boxer, so I'm sure it's the correct family.

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I had earlier (and erroneously) changed this Susan Boxer to the wife of James Morford, rather than Thomas Spearpoint based on the following information from Leslie Huppert:

"Your GEDCOM reminded me that back in November we corresponded with Jan McMaster of Sydney, Australia. Jan is descended from Susan Boxer and Thomas SPEARPOINT. When we began comparing notes, though, there was some confusion and we've not yet heard back from Jan. She had Susan, born 1722 to Richard and Margaret Boxer, marrying Mr Spearpoint. Well, that Susan is MY Susan who married James MORFORD. At least, I'm fairly certain that's the case. I note that your data, like Jan's, has:
2 Susannah Boxer b. 2 Mar 1721/22 d. 21 Apr 1802 m. 30 Nov 1744 Thomas Spearpoint b. 4 Nov 1722 d. ABT. 1779
from SS Mary & Eanswythe Parish Register: Susan and Hannah twin daughters of Richard and Margaret Boxer. Allow me to present my argument (apologies to Sue and Dee, who've heard it before).

"James Morford, a baker, son of Peter and Mary, was baptised in Folkesone at the age of 7. Upon his 13 Jan 1745 marriage to Susan BOXER he became a Freeman of Folkestone. He and Susan had nine children, with the first born in 1745 and the last in 1763.

"The IGI shows a Susan BOXER marrying Thomas SPEARPOINT in 1744, their first child baptised in 1745 and their last in 1763 - so nine kids in twenty one years. Very similar data! I looked at the names of the children and found - MORFORD Susan, Margaret (for maternal grandmother?), Mary, Sarah, Thomas, Ann, Elizabeth, James and Hannah (for mother's twin sister?) SPEARPOINT Susan, Henry, Thomas, Baker, Ann, Elizabeth, Ann, Mary and James

"Interestingly, not a single son was named Richard, which might have clarified matters! The IGI lists only three Susan Boxers in Kent christened in the same timeframe (sort of) and they are: Susan d. James/Elizabeth 18 Mar 1709 Folkestone Susan d. RIchard/Margaret bp 1722 Susan d. Jacob/Mary bp 2 Jun 1731 Folkestone

If one assumes they were christened in infancy, then:
1744 1745 1763 Susan d. James age 35 age 36 age 54 Susan d. Richard age 22 age 23 age 41 Susan d. Jacob age 13 age 14 age 32

Would appreciate your comments.

Regards,
Lesley
Constance Bay, Ontario
http://www.cyberus.ca/~huppert"

However, this was subsequently reversed: Hi Jan. Good to hear from you.

At 08:26 PM 5/19/01 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Lesley, > I have some bad news for you, I finally found out how old Susan > Boxer-Spearpoint was when she died. She died 21 April 1802 aged 80 which > makes her birth year 1722, which leaves a question mark as to who your > Susan Boxer is. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

Well, that certainly seems to settle it, doesn't it? Susan Boxer Spearpoint married in 1744, so she would have been about 22, based on her age at death. Her last child was christened in 1763, when she'd have been 41. And she didn't name any of her children after her mother or father. Not unheard of, of course.

As you say, that leaves the field wide open for my Susan Boxer Morford who married in 1745! I will have to relay the bad news by snail mail to other researchers who (erroneously) came to the same conclusions as me. I now need to search for the post-1763 burial for Susan Boxer Morford and hope that her age is given so that I can sort out her parents. My fault for breaking one of the rules of genealogy - bury your dead! She might be the daughter of James and Elizabeth (bp 1709) - or she might even have been a widow when she married James Morford.

I will keep in touch and let you know what I find out. In the meantime, can you give me details of your descent from Susan Boxer Spearpoint?

Just to confirm what I mentioned previously, Sue in Australia is descended through Ann Boxer (sister of Susan) TART so you and she are definitely connected.

Regards,
Lesley
Constance Bay, Ontario
21 May 2001


----------------------- Other notes:

Birth information from Folkestone SS Mary and Eanswyth Parish Register Call Number: U3/88 Note: NS18033

Susan and Hannah were twin Daughter's of Richard and Margaret Boxer.

I have a connection with Boxer's of Folkstone Kent. It is with a Susannah Boxer who married into the Morford family of Folkstone in 1745 a long way back I'm afraid.

They had a Margaret 1747, Mary 1749, Sarah 1751,Elizabeth 1759, Harriet 1764,James 1761. I suspect there were more children in between but haven't found them.

Peter Morford and Mary was James father 1722.

Sheila Jackson , posted Dec 7, 2000.

Also have Boxer family members in Folkestone, Katrina Link

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Note, Batch #: M020721, Sheet #:, Source Call #: 0908172 IT 2.
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Notes:

Married:
Marriage record from Folkestone SS Mary and Eanswyth Parish Register Call Number: U3/88 Note: NS18033

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: 470A2CBE4CEA4AA7B9605331BC1D5CE418A7
• Name: Henry SPEAREPOINT
• Reference Number: IRN-164

Henry married Joan PENNY on 25 Dec 1720 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. Joan (daughter of Christopher PENNY and Mary HALL) was born in Feb 1695 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 10 Feb 1695 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; died on 25 Apr 1760 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _UID: D6D1C127C54448D188BAB47BBA3D0EDE0507
• Name: Joane PENNEY
• Name: Joane PENNY
• Name: Joanna PENNY
• Name: Joanny PENNY
• Name: Jone PENNY
• Name: Jone PENNY
• Reference Number: IRN-172
• Alt. Birth: 10 Feb 1694; Folkestone, Kent, England