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• _UID: E6317D55917D4DC4A8033BBD5C0D15689108

Notes:

Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:51:36 -0700 From: Judy Roberts Reply-To: robertsj@istar.ca Subject: My Godden Family

Hello Again Richard

I am sending you two lines, both direct meaning no other siblings unless relevant.

Thomas Godden of Brabourne and Penelope (nee could be Sladden because there is a son named that). Thomas died 1663, I have a copy of a will to that effect Their daughter Joane (She is the one I told you about before) married 05 Dec 1665, to Thomas Cullen at St. Mary Bredin, Canterbury. He was a weaver.

Thomas & Joane Cullen had a son Richard b 03 Dec 1669, he married Affrey Jenkin, 03 Dec 1699 at Folkestone. Their son James b 24 Jun 1711 married twice, first Margaret Hogben 1734 second Mary Ovel 1746, he was a cordwainer. Their son Richard b 17 Nov 1754 married Alive Jeffrey 10 Jan 1775, he was a mariner and the first member of the family to work for the Rothchilds, Alice lived to be 99.

Now their son Thomas b 29 Dec 1790 married Susanna Dixon 01 Aug 1811, he was also a mariner and also worked for the Rothchilds. They had a son Thomas b 15 Oct 1815 married Mary Wiles Godden (I will trace Mary's Goddens when I have finish this). This Thomas had quite a varied career but always worked for the Rothchilds, moved away from Folkestone to the Dulwich area where there is a family stone at Nunhead. From here on down everything is documented. Their son Frederick b 09 Sep 1860 married Selina Adelaide Warr, they had a daughter Emma Maud b 1889 married Archie Joseph George Marsh, these were my grandparents.

Mary Wiles Godden's ancestors ( I think you will be interested in this as I think this our connection.

Stephen Godden b 08 Aug 1613 Maidstone married Elizabeth Hall 20 Mar 1648 He died 1709 I have his will also, he was a cooper. Now Stephen & Elizabeth had a son Stephen b 12 Sep 1653 who married Mary Gardiner 1674 in Folkestone. Steven had a son Thomas b 01 Jan 1672 who married Elizabeth and had a son also named Thomas b 06 Sep 1703. This Thomas married Mary Baker and had a son named Richard who appears to have married twice first to Elizabeth Sladden and then to Elizabeth Puttee. They had two sons, one Richard b 14 Jun 1778 who married Martha Golden an, two, David b 22 Dec 1780 who married Margaret Wiles. He married for a second time but it is the first marriage that produced Mary Wiles Godden. So there you are hope it will be of some use to you.

Regards Judy

Family/Spouse: Selina Adelaide WARR. Selina and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Emma Maud CULLEN was born in 1889; and died.

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• _UID: 638A6F2A9CF740D4A9517A34B8F60AE97679
• Last Address: Moved with wife to France in 1837
• Occupation: banker's agent

Notes:

Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:51:36 -0700 From: Judy Roberts Reply-To: robertsj@istar.ca Subject: My Godden Family

Hello Again Richard

I am sending you two lines, both direct meaning no other siblings unless relevant.

Thomas Godden of Brabourne and Penelope (nee could be Sladden because there is a son named that). Thomas died 1663, I have a copy of a will to that effect Their daughter Joane (She is the one I told you about before) married 05 Dec 1665, to Thomas Cullen at St. Mary Bredin, Canterbury. He was a weaver.

Thomas & Joane Cullen had a son Richard b 03 Dec 1669, he married Affrey Jenkin, 03 Dec 1699 at Folkestone. Their son James b 24 Jun 1711 married twice, first Margaret Hogben 1734 second Mary Ovel 1746, he was a cordwainer. Their son Richard b 17 Nov 1754 married Alive Jeffrey 10 Jan 1775, he was a mariner and the first member of the family to work for the Rothchilds, Alice lived to be 99.

Now their son Thomas b 29 Dec 1790 married Susanna Dixon 01 Aug 1811, he was also a mariner and also worked for the Rothchilds. They had a son Thomas b 15 Oct 1815 married Mary Wiles Godden (I will trace Mary's Goddens when I have finish this). This Thomas had quite a varied career but always worked for the Rothchilds, moved away from Folkestone to the Dulwich area where there is a family stone at Nunhead. From here on down everything is documented. Their son Frederick b 09 Sep 1860 married Selina Adelaide Warr, they had a daughter Emma Maud b 1889 married Archie Joseph George Marsh, these were my grandparents.

Mary Wiles Godden's ancestors ( I think you will be interested in this as I think this our connection.

Stephen Godden b 08 Aug 1613 Maidstone married Elizabeth Hall 20 Mar 1648 He died 1709 I have his will also, he was a cooper. Now Stephen & Elizabeth had a son Stephen b 12 Sep 1653 who married Mary Gardiner 1674 in Folkestone. Steven had a son Thomas b 01 Jan 1672 who married Elizabeth and had a son also named Thomas b 06 Sep 1703. This Thomas married Mary Baker and had a son named Richard who appears to have married twice first to Elizabeth Sladden and then to Elizabeth Puttee. They had two sons, one Richard b 14 Jun 1778 who married Martha Golden an, two, David b 22 Dec 1780 who married Margaret Wiles. He married for a second time but it is the first marriage that produced Mary Wiles Godden. So there you are hope it will be of some use to you.

Regards Judy

Thomas married Mary Wiles GODDEN on 16 Oct 1837 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. Mary (daughter of David GODDEN and Margaret WILES) was born in Jul 1814 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 29 Jul 1814 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• _UID: 570D22ECDB1A4405A4A1EBBE7E52CD3C77C5
• Last Address: Moved with husband to France in 1837
• Alt. Birth: Abt 1822; Greenwich, Kent, England

Notes:

Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:51:36 -0700 From: Judy Roberts Reply-To: robertsj@istar.ca Subject: My Godden Family

Hello Again Richard

I am sending you two lines, both direct meaning no other siblings unless relevant.

Thomas Godden of Brabourne and Penelope (nee could be Sladden because there is a son named that). Thomas died 1663, I have a copy of a will to that effect Their daughter Joane (She is the one I told you about before) married 05 Dec 1665, to Thomas Cullen at St. Mary Bredin, Canterbury. He was a weaver.

Thomas & Joane Cullen had a son Richard b 03 Dec 1669, he married Affrey Jenkin, 03 Dec 1699 at Folkestone. Their son James b 24 Jun 1711 married twice, first Margaret Hogben 1734 second Mary Ovel 1746, he was a cordwainer. Their son Richard b 17 Nov 1754 married Alive Jeffrey 10 Jan 1775, he was a mariner and the first member of the family to work for the Rothchilds, Alice lived to be 99.

Now their son Thomas b 29 Dec 1790 married Susanna Dixon 01 Aug 1811, he was also a mariner and also worked for the Rothchilds. They had a son Thomas b 15 Oct 1815 married Mary Wiles Godden (I will trace Mary's Goddens when I have finish this). This Thomas had quite a varied career but always worked for the Rothchilds, moved away from Folkestone to the Dulwich area where there is a family stone at Nunhead. From here on down everything is documented. Their son Frederick b 09 Sep 1860 married Selina Adelaide Warr, they had a daughter Emma Maud b 1889 married Archie Joseph George Marsh, these were my grandparents.

Mary Wiles Godden's ancestors ( I think you will be interested in this as I think this our connection.

Stephen Godden b 08 Aug 1613 Maidstone married Elizabeth Hall 20 Mar 1648 He died 1709 I have his will also, he was a cooper. Now Stephen & Elizabeth had a son Stephen b 12 Sep 1653 who married Mary Gardiner 1674 in Folkestone. Steven had a son Thomas b 01 Jan 1672 who married Elizabeth and had a son also named Thomas b 06 Sep 1703. This Thomas married Mary Baker and had a son named Richard who appears to have married twice first to Elizabeth Sladden and then to Elizabeth Puttee. They had two sons, one Richard b 14 Jun 1778 who married Martha Golden and, two, David b 22 Dec 1780 who married Margaret Wiles. He married for a second time but it is the first marriage that produced Mary Wiles Godden. So there you are hope it will be of some use to you.

Regards Judy

----------------------- In case you don't have this info on Richard (1744). "Richard GODDEN was a landlord of the 'Three Mackerel' on the Strade. It was a well known haunt of Excisemen, and when it was demolished, circa 1936, moving wall panels and hides for contraband goods were found. Richard was co-owner of 'Flying Fish' 136 tons, 10 carriage guns. His partner was William BOXER. There are accounts...(pages lost)... among clean linen in a laundry basket. Richard and Elizabeth GODDEN were the grandparents of Mary Wiles GODDEN, who married Thomas CULLEN the banker's agent, and went with him to live in France in 1837." "Sue" Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001

Notes:

Married:
My Wiles GODDEN

Sex:
F


Marriage(s):

Spouse:
Tho CULLEN Marriage:
16 Oct 1837
Folkestone, Kent, England


Source Information:




Batch number:
M020721

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• _UID: 83975062DC544EF580C3074CF6CD090DAE51
• Alt. Birth: Dec 1780; Folkestone, Kent, England

David married Margaret WILES on 27 Feb 1804 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. Margaret was born about 1785; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• _UID: 69D744581F074FBB96BADEC76A46233B0F9B
• Name: Mary WILES
• Name: Mary WILES

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• _UID: 0AE3F181166D4DB3A078C738ED61DE779CC0

Notes:

Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:51:36 -0700 From: Judy Roberts Reply-To: robertsj@istar.ca Subject: My Godden Family

Hello Again Richard

I am sending you two lines, both direct meaning no other siblings unless relevant.

Thomas Godden of Brabourne and Penelope (nee could be Sladden because there is a son named that). Thomas died 1663, I have a copy of a will to that effect. Their daughter Joane (She is the one I told you about before) married 05 Dec 1665, to Thomas Cullen at St. Mary Bredin, Canterbury. He was a weaver.

Thomas & Joane Cullen had a son Richard born 1669. He married Affrey Jenkin, 03 Dec 1699 at Folkestone. Their son James b 24 Jun 1711 married twice, first Margaret Hogben 1734 second Mary Ovel 1746, he was a cordwainer. Their son Richard b 17 Nov 1754 married Alive Jeffrey 10 Jan 1775. He was a mariner and the first member of the family to work for the Rothchilds. Alice lived to be 99.

Now their son Thomas b 29 Dec 1790 married Susanna Dixon 01 Aug 1811. He was also a mariner and also worked for the Rothchilds. They had a son Thomas b 15 Oct 1815 married Mary Wiles Godden (I will trace Mary's Goddens when I have finish this). This Thomas had quite a varied career but always worked for the Rothchilds, moved away from Folkestone to the Dulwich area where there is a family stone at Nunhead. From here on down everything is documented. Their son Frederick b 09 Sep 1860 married Selina Adelaide Warr, they had a daughter Emma Maud b 1889 married Archie Joseph George Marsh, these were my grandparents.

Mary Wiles Godden's ancestors (I think you will be interested in this as I think this our connection).

Stephen Godden b 08 Aug 1613 Maidstone married Elizabeth Hall 20 Mar 1648. He died 1709. I have his will also. He was a cooper. Now Stephen & Elizabeth had a son Stephen b 12 Sep 1653 who married Mary Gardiner 1674 in Folkestone. Steven had a son Thomas b 01 Jan 1672 who married Elizabeth and had a son also named Thomas b 06 Sep 1703. This Thomas married Mary Baker and had a son named Richard who appears to have married twice first to Elizabeth Sladden and then to Elizabeth Puttee. They had two sons, one, Richard b 14 Jun 1778 who married Martha Golden and, two, David b 22 Dec 1780 who married Margaret Wiles. He married for a second time but it is the first marriage that produced Mary Wiles Godden. So there you are hope it will be of some use to you.

Regards Judy ------ Submitter to IGI of Richard Godden information is ROBERT F. Harris 23 ARCHER ROAD FOLKESTONE, KENT, ENGLAND Microfilm: 1394051 Submission: AF83-010065 ---------------

In case you don't have this info on Richard (1744). "Richard GODDEN was a landlord of the 'Three Mackerel' on the Strade. It was a well known haunt of Excisemen, and when it was demolished, circa 1936, moving wall panels and hides for contraband goods were found. Richard was co-owner of 'Flying Fish' 136 tons, 10 carriage guns. His partner was William BOXER. There are accounts...(pages lost)... among clean linen in a laundry basket. Richard and Elizabeth GODDEN were the grandparents of Mary Wiles GODDEN, who married Thomas CULLEN the banker's agent, and went with him to live in France in 1837." "Sue" Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001

----- There is conflicting evidence on whether Richard Godden was married twice (Elizabeth Sladden and Elizabeth Puttee), or there were two Richard Goddens married separately. I personally believe the best evidence is for one Richard Godden to be married to two Elizabeths, but further confirmation one way or the other would be welcomed.

Here is the one Richard, two wives scenario that some sources have:

Husband Richard Godden Christening: 16 OCT 1744 Folkestone, Kent, England Marriage: 09 MAY 1771 Folkestone, Kent, England Father: Thomas Godden Mother: Mary Baker

Wife Elizabeth Sladden Birth: About 1750 Folkestone, Kent, England Marriage: 09 MAY 1771 Folkestone, Kent, England

Children 1. Mary Godden
Female Christening: August 30, 1771 Folkestone, Kent, England

2. Elizabeth Godden
Female Christening: 04 DEC 1772 Folkestone, Kent, England Death: 17 JAN 1773

3. Thomas Godden
Male
Birth: Christening: January 26, 1774 Folkestone, Kent, England

Following this line, it is believed Elizabeth Sladden died between 1774 and 1777, with Richard Godden remarrying as follows based on information from Penny Hiatt Name: Richard GODDEN Sex: M Marriage 1 Elizabeth PUTTEE b: 1754 in Folkestone, Kent, England Married: 11 AUG 1777 in Folkestone, Kent, England Children Richard GODDEN b: 1778 in Folkestone, Kent, England David GODDEN b: 1779 in Folkestone, Kent, England David GODDEN b: 1780 in Folkestone, Kent, England William GODDEN b: 1783 in Folkestone, Kent, England William GODDEN b: 1786 in Folkestone, Kent, England Elizabeth GODDEN b: 1787 in Folkestone, Kent, England Alexander GODDEN b: 1790 in Folkestone, Kent, England John GODDEN b: 1794 in Folkestone, Kent, England

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Still others say Elizabeth Sladden did not die and the following children should be attributed to her as follows (but overlooking the three children listed above born between 1771-1774):

Husband Richard Godden Christening: 16 OCT 1744 Folkestone, Kent, England Marriage: 09 MAY 1771 Folkestone, Kent, England Father: Thomas Godden Mother: Mary Baker

Wife Elizabeth Sladden Birth: About 1750 Folkestone, Kent, England Marriage: 09 MAY 1771 Folkestone, Kent, England

Children 1. Richard Godden
Male Christening: 14 JUN 1778 Folkestone, Kent, England

2. David Godden
Male Christening: 08 OCT 1779 Folkestone, Kent, England Death: 14 MAR 1780

3. David Godden
Male
Birth: Christening: 22 DEC 1780 Folkestone, Kent, England

4. William Godden
Male Christening: 31 AUG 1783 Folkestone, Kent, England Death: 21 JUN 1785

5. William Godden
Male
Christening: 22 JAN 1786 Folkestone, Kent, England Death: 04 MAR 1787

6. Elizabeth Godden
Female
Christening: About 1787 Folkestone, Kent, England Death: 31 DEC 1790

7. Alexander Godden Christening: 20 JUN 1790 Folkestone, Kent, England Death: 03 FEB 1791

8. John Godden
Male
Christening: 23 FEB 1794 Folkestone, Kent, England

IGI Source Information: Film Number: 457685

Richard married Elizabeth PUTTEE on 11 Aug 1777 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. Elizabeth (daughter of David PUTTEE and Mary BURWASH) was born in Aug 1754 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; was christened on 23 Aug 1754 in Folkestone, , Kent, England; died in 1834 in Folkestone, , Kent, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• _UID: 1F6C49B9046B4E1AA2279E948DDA3AF1F146

Notes:

This is our likely person, so I am putting her here.

Elizabeth PUTTEE Sex: F Event(s): Christening: 23 Aug 1754
Parish Church, Folkestone, Kent, England Parents: Father:
David PUTTEE
Mother:
Mary WATSON Source Information: IGI Batch number: 8433530 Source Call No. 1395902 Type: Film Sheet: 8

Eliz PUTTEE Sex: F Event(s): Christening: 21 May 1775 Folkestone, Kent, England Parents: Father: Dav PUTTEE Mother: Mgt Source Information: IGI Batch number: Dates Source Call No. Type Printout Call No. Type P020721 1635-1840 0908172 IT 13 Film 6906423 Film


Most researchers show Elizabeth Puttee's mother as Mary WATSON, but a tree prepared by Doreen Kelly shows Elizabeth's mother as Mary nee BURWASH (1717-1781). I go with the majority here, which is better documented from the IGI, until shown otherwise.

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NOTE: There is conflicting evidence on whether Richard Godden was married twice (Elizabeth Sladden and Elizabeth Puttee), or there were two Richard Goddens married separately. I personally believe the best evidence is for one Richard Godden to be married to two Elizabeths, but further confirmation one way or the other would be welcomed.

Here is the one Richard, two wives scenario that some sources have:

Husband Richard Godden Christening: 16 OCT 1744 Folkestone, Kent, England Marriage: 09 MAY 1771 Folkestone, Kent, England Father: Thomas Godden Mother: Mary Baker

Wife Elizabeth Sladden Birth: About 1750 Folkestone, Kent, England Marriage: 09 MAY 1771 Folkestone, Kent, England

Children 1. Mary Godden
Female Christening: August 30, 1771 Folkestone, Kent, England

2. Elizabeth Godden
Female Christening: 04 DEC 1772 Folkestone, Kent, England Death: 17 JAN 1773

3. Thomas Godden
Male
Birth: Christening: January 26, 1774 Folkestone, Kent, England

Following this line, it is believed Elizabeth Sladden died between 1774 and 1777, with Richard Godden remarrying as follows based on information from Penny Hiatt Name: Richard GODDEN Sex: M Marriage 1 Elizabeth PUTTEE b: 1754 in Folkestone, Kent, England Married: 11 AUG 1777 in Folkestone, Kent, England Children Richard GODDEN b: 1778 in Folkestone, Kent, England David GODDEN b: 1779 in Folkestone, Kent, England David GODDEN b: 1780 in Folkestone, Kent, England William GODDEN b: 1783 in Folkestone, Kent, England William GODDEN b: 1786 in Folkestone, Kent, England Elizabeth GODDEN b: 1787 in Folkestone, Kent, England Alexander GODDEN b: 1790 in Folkestone, Kent, England John GODDEN b: 1794 in Folkestone, Kent, England

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Still others say Elizabeth Sladden did not die and the following children should be attributed to her as follows (but overlooking the three children listed above born between 1771-1774):

Husband Richard Godden Christening: 16 OCT 1744 Folkestone, Kent, England Marriage: 09 MAY 1771 Folkestone, Kent, England Father: Thomas Godden Mother: Mary Baker

Wife Elizabeth Sladden Birth: About 1750 Folkestone, Kent, England Marriage: 09 MAY 1771 Folkestone, Kent, England

Children 1. Richard Godden
Male Christening: 14 JUN 1778 Folkestone, Kent, England

2. David Godden
Male Christening: 08 OCT 1779 Folkestone, Kent, England Death: 14 MAR 1780

3. David Godden
Male
Birth: Christening: 22 DEC 1780 Folkestone, Kent, England

4. William Godden
Male Christening: 31 AUG 1783 Folkestone, Kent, England Death: 21 JUN 1785

5. William Godden
Male
Christening: 22 JAN 1786 Folkestone, Kent, England Death: 04 MAR 1787

6. Elizabeth Godden
Female
Christening: About 1787 Folkestone, Kent, England Death: 31 DEC 1790

7. Alexander Godden Christening: 20 JUN 1790 Folkestone, Kent, England Death: 03 FEB 1791

8. John Godden
Male
Christening: 23 FEB 1794 Folkestone, Kent, England

IGI Source Information: Film Number: 457685

Notes:

Married:
Ric GODDEN Sex: M Marriage(s): Spouse:
Eliz PUTTEE Marriage:
11 Aug 1777
Folkestone, Kent, England Source Information: IGI Batch number: M020721

Eliz PUTTEE Sex: F Marriage(s): Spouse: Ric GODDEN Marriage: 11 Aug 1777 Folkestone, Kent, England Source Information: IGI Batch number: Dates Source Call No. Type Printout Call No. Type M020721 1635-1840 0908172 IT 2 Film 6906424 Film